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NaijaFlyer 08-16-2016 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by TogaParty (Post 2179808)
Most of SLC based captains at OO probably won't be leaving. In general OO has a decent percentage of pilots who plan to finish their careers at SkyWest. Thess are just my observations whoever.

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E175 Driver 08-16-2016 03:49 PM

envoy has their fair share of old lifers. They are boring as hell too!

velosnow 08-16-2016 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by NaijaFlyer (Post 2181308)
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Put the pipe down. Put it down.

rickair7777 08-17-2016 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2179814)
I would say even the "OO" lifers are reconsidering.. Seen some senior people leave.. But i would guess 300-400 out of 4000 that will stay. Mostly SLC.. (Only because its the oldest established base)


There's a difference between "planning" to be lifers and "going" to be lifers.

I'd guess at least 1000 at SKW (voluntary + involuntary), unless the regional industry really gets turned on it's ear and becomes unrecognizable or non-existent.

block30 08-17-2016 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2182442)
There's a difference between "planning" to be lifers and "going" to be lifers.

This!
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tennisguru 08-17-2016 02:22 PM

I know there are a fair number of senior CA's at PSA who live in/around Knoxville, so moving on to AA through the flow would mean spending the last 5 years or so of their career commuting. Yes the pay would go up considerably over time but for some you just can't beat living where you want to live and also being a short drive from your base.

Apokleros 08-17-2016 02:55 PM

Over time and through constant struggles, the urge not to upset ones quality of life treads deeper. I cannot find fault in anyone who chooses to stay a "lifer". All the best of luck to anyone who wishes to stay high on the seniority list. It's frankly not a bad place to be compared with many other jobs, aside from the threat of one's regional going under..... Everyone must follow their own path

MartinBishop 08-17-2016 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2182518)
I know there are a fair number of senior CA's at PSA who live in/around Knoxville

Is Knoxville a senior base?

Turbosina 08-17-2016 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2182442)
There's a difference between "planning" to be lifers and "going" to be lifers.

I'd guess at least 1000 at SKW (voluntary + involuntary), unless the regional industry really gets turned on it's ear and becomes unrecognizable or non-existent.

I am amazed, though, when I fly with certain mid-seniority CAs, and when I ask if they want to bail, they say "Heck yes, I can't stand this place." Then I ask them if they're updating their apps and/or are attending job fairs.

I've heard variations on the following reply so many times:

"Update my apps? Yeah, a couple years ago. Job fairs? Heck no. If they want me, they can call me."

There clearly are folks who want to move on but aren't putting in the effort...but can't bring themselves to admit that they're going to be at OO until they retire.

Which isn't a bad thing by any means. Everyone's priorities are different. If you live in base, are near the top of the seniority list, and have a side business or a spouse with solid income, it may not make sense to trade that for commuting to reserve at the bottom of a legacy's seniority list.

N1234 08-17-2016 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2182576)
I am amazed, though, when I fly with certain mid-seniority CAs, and when I ask if they want to bail, they say "Heck yes, I can't stand this place." Then I ask them if they're updating their apps and/or are attending job fairs.

I've heard variations on the following reply so many times:

"Update my apps? Yeah, a couple years ago. Job fairs? Heck no. If they want me, they can call me."

There clearly are folks who want to move on but aren't putting in the effort...but can't bring themselves to admit that they're going to be at OO until they retire.

Which isn't a bad thing by any means. Everyone's priorities are different. If you live in base, are near the top of the seniority list, and have a side business or a spouse with solid income, it may not make sense to trade that for commuting to reserve at the bottom of a legacy's seniority list.


Which appears to be very much in line with some of the numbers once hears. Allegedly the legacies have somewhere between 10,000 and 12,000 apps on file of which 9,000 or so are current (updated etc.). Maybe 75% of those are regional pilots vs. what 19,000 total or so.... (Just a guess on my part)

So, yes, there are many folks who are not trying that hard for whatever reason - which is perfectly OK too.


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