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Old 02-15-2007, 05:59 AM
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Assuming Air Wisky never works out or if I'm offered a job with another airline first, how hard would it be to commute as a new FO?

For example if I want to live in MD, and I get a job with American Eagle out of Dallas. Would this be suicide?

In a previous thread I asked what regionals fly out of BWI, DCA, PHL?

That's how I found out about Wisky & Piedmont. Does anyone else operate out of these airports?

Thanks for the help, I'll probably ask a million questions but I'd rather be over prepared than under.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:14 AM
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The key issues for commuters are...

1) How many daily flights? The more the better (3-4 minimum).
2) How many direct flights? Two leg commutes double the stress.
3) How many different airlines? The more the merrier.
4) Does your own company have a direct route? You have priority on your own airplanes and affiliated airlines.
5) Do any of the airlines operate airbuses? they have TWO jumpseats.
6) Are you going to or from a large airline domicile? Lot's of pilots travelling.
7) Is you hometown a place that pilots want to live?


I have had great luck commuting when I have:
- Multiple non-stops on company/affiliated iron.
- At least one OTHER airline (SWA preferred) on the route.
- Airbuses.


I think you have a few things going for you...
1) Probably not a lot of pilots want to live in the DC metro area.
2) AA probably goes non-stop to DFW from BWI, DCA, and IAD. Look it up on the internet.
3) If you're going to work for eagle, you will have some priority getting on those flights. Try to find a local AA/AE pilot to ask. NOTE: AE used to deny travel privileges to new-hire pilots for 6 months...you need to find out if they still do that (other airlines give you travel/JS within a few weeks).
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One of my favorite resources:

www.passrider.com

Good luck!
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:23 AM
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thanks for the help. trust me if it was up to me I'd move to the south or back to KY. but the woman wants to stay around MD *god knows why*

I guess its tit for tat. i'll be gone so she can be around her friends / parents etc.

but I miss the southern lifestyle of slow, no one cares, and oh so warm.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:41 AM
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You can non rev immediately on Eagle\American as a new hire.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:48 PM
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Help me out a little bit please. What is non rev mean? I see it a lot on the boards
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:09 PM
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basically it means flying standby for free, non-rev = non revenue, or non paying passenger. Paying passengers will get priority over you all the time, but, if you've got several flights to catch, and can leave the day before your trip, it isn't bad. Just don't get in a position where you'll be stuck, cause that could end up with you "stuck" at another airline. ehhh.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:16 PM
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I don't think non-rev on eagle for eagle pilots is free unless there are no seats in the back and you occupy the actaul... or was that just for mainline?
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:30 AM
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Eagle charges you a service charge. All seats do not have to be full to jumpseat, they changed that rule in Jan 2005. The service charge can add up, but it is part of living where you want to.

Non rev doesn't have to mean free, it just means they are not making money. A service charge just covers the expense of you riding.
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by thestaton View Post
thanks for the help. trust me if it was up to me I'd move to the south or back to KY. but the woman wants to stay around MD *god knows why*
I am from LEX, my wife is from IND..and we plan on getting the hell out of Maryland just as quickly as we reasonably can. While we like it here, its definitely not "home"...

To answer your question I dunno about DFW, but there are hourly flights from DCA to ORD, and you could easily get from BWI to ORD via AA/UAL or Southwest via Midway and take the El. If you got hired at Eagle, commuting to BOS or LGA might be easier, though.

Are you in the hiring pool at Wiskey? I don't think things are gonna 'bust loose' anytime soon but I'd say they'll almost have to hire in another month or two at most to get properly staffed for summer.
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