I'm sure this wasn't his 1st time showing up over the legal limit. Luckily, he finally got caught before something serious happened to innocent people. I feel for his family, but he put himself in the predicament that he is in and deserves what he has coming to him. I understand it's a disease and some can't control themselves, but that is NO excuse not to make the right decision the next day.

Question is where was his Captain? He should of never made it to the airport, good job looking after your crew.....

Kinda have to agree.

Wearing a polka dot tie with a pin stripe shirt, that's a dumb mistake.

But watch/flipflops guy did is the dumb stuff you're supposed to get out of your system in high school/college.

But sadly, as mentioned, it simply doesn't matter since he was hired at DAL.

Along with pilots that got DUI's AFTER their college days while serving as a crew member flying Delta's passengers around on a DelCon carrer, arrested and charged with felonies AFTER their college days, etc etc etc........

If he wants to keep his job/career, he'd better be an alcoholic. HIMS doesn't work for one-time bad judgement, you have to have a sustained issue.

I don't think keeping his job is on the table now. As for career? He's probably done, certainly on the career track he was on.

HIMS will bring him back, if he has a substance problem.

Aren't you a holier than thou type. Maybe his captain was checking the weather for the day maybe the captain was talking to their spouse on the phone, perhaps they were still waking up because it was early in the morning. Throwing the stone in a glass house.

HIMS is not a get out of jail card like an ASAP. This is now a criminal act. It doesn't work that way.

You make it sound like he should be able to walk scot-free.

I don't really want to comment on this particular individual, what happened was unfortunate and hope he gets some serious help. Anyways.....

Aren't some of the cargo companies 24 hours bottle to throttle? Heard that from two separate people lately. Just curious. Sadly, if the pilot group can't come together to help people like this out ahead of time, that's exactly what it will come down to before you know it-especially how the media blows things out of proportion this day in age in regards to aviation. Do I think it should be 24 hours, no, but I feel like I know where this is going....

Completion of HIMS has gotten people their certificates and jobs back.

At SKW HIMS will likely allow him to return to his original seniority, if he completes the program and gets his medical back. Assuming this is even a HIMS case. Certainly no guarantees though.

But HIMS works much. much better if you get into it before getting caught.

HIMS at other airlines may be different.

Here is a link for anyone who wants information about the HIMS program:

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I thought it was the FA that broke into the car, the pilot was only in the woods naked...

Addiction is a widespread and very serious problem in the legal profession and is discussed at most yearly CLE's, particularly the mandatory ethics training. Some firms overlook functional addicts if they produce revenue and bill hours; for a time. State Bar organizations have a program similar to HIMS to help lawyers get and remain healthy, hopefully before the lawyer is out of control and commits malpractice.

I am certainly not going to judge and I hope this pilot has a positive personal outcome regardless of whether he flies again or not.

Exactly. I'm very early on in my career. I posed this question to some of my friends last year in flight school right before we graduated and almost all of them were "throw them under the bus, call the cops". With the standards dropping at the regionals I don't think it'll be long before that line of thinking becomes standard.

You must be part of the ME generation. Only care and look out for yourself. It only takes a little hello and small conversation down in the hotel lobby to notice how fit each other is before heading to the airport.

Do NOT sniff your crew members.

*** does this have to do with the ME generation? And no, I'm not part of their generation.

Are you saying that a lack of willpower and/or lack of maturity for one not to realize that they have a problem is irresponsible?

Well then, i agree.

My answer, back in the day, was either you call in sick or I will. Sobering moment.

Really, then you surely didn't read my entire post? Unless you just pick and choose what you want to see?

Pilot arrested
 

You are welcome, coat tail rider. And I never left. Now go ahead and tell daddy on me. I'll still be here anyway.

The solution to this is quite clear. Instruct TSA to not get too close and start sniffing around crew members. Then we won't have this problem anymore.

Yeah, this is why we have a very growing prison population. Sure they ended up in jail, but when released look at the stats on them returning because they were not properly rehabilitated while in jail so they're gonna do it again. Or given the resources or role models to not do this in the first place. Look out for your fellow man. Yeah for a lot of people now, sorry you have to deal with some real stuff, embarrassing, and stressful. But would you rather have an awkward moment, deal with scheduling and say we are short a pilot or be under the scrutiny of the police too since you flew with a intoxcates pilot. You are held equally responsible if chalk out. Have the convo. If you can't approach someone and say you're concerned about their well being that also directly involved you. Then this industry isn't for you. Get them to call out sick before you ruin someone's life. If then they don't wanna work with you. Then they're gonna see the consequences

Rickair for President!! Just having the understanding that everyone is getting worked to death is something the current prez can't comprehend. Of course, I'm sure a lot has changed since he flew the line 8 years ago. I'm sure everyone will just be happy with another 1% and a winter coat instead.

The point I was trying to make but didn't come across very clear was there is not a lot of difference between fatigue and intoxication. SW should just count themselves lucky that it is way easier to place the blame with intoxication. My feeling is that there is some type of incident waiting to happen with all the pilot pushing going on. And just like the LAX Bro jetway incident, SW will try to do everything possible to lay the blame with the pilots. PBS is a mess because of the parameters that they are forcing on it. High minimum reserve numbers which allow no schedule flexibility. People getting awarded 95 hours because min line value is 88 hours and the solution is to send an email telling people to bid smarter?

My advice to everyone is to take care of yourself and your crew. Because if you are on the wrong side of a news camera, because of fatigue or alcohol, ultimately it will come back to your decision to take a seat at the controls vs calling in.

His career isn't over--
 

AA/CEO dwi Douggie Parker has 3 DWI CONVICTIONS-which in my state means you have a g@d dam felony conviction, 10 years in prison, ect

Or,

You could just become a top airline executive----party on Wayne!!






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Put your boyfriends wine cooler back in the fridge and stop posting nonsense.

Eagle used to fire people for calling in fatigued. Of course, they wouldn't come out and "admit" that was the reason, but you'd be put on a list and handled later. They pay lip service to it, but they really don't give a sh!t if you're tired or not. I'm sure the current bunch of rats running the place are cut from the same cloth.

You can blame a whole lot of things but nobody twisted his arm and made him drink....whatever the reason.
Party-party, alcoholic, death in the family, wife left him...whatever the reason.
He and only he made the choice to show up and attempt to work.
Now my answer to an interview question has nothing to do with it as he didn't even make it to the plane.
The TSA ( bless their little hearts ) "caught" him.
Thousands of people want his job, thousands more want his career and he just threw it all away.
Same as a DUI I'm simply assuming it's not the first time.
It hardly ever is. He just got caught this time.
Yeah go ahead and flame me for riding the no-sympathy train.

The amount of blind excuse making for this jacka@$ is befuddling. Nobody held a gun to this guy's head and forced him to get drunk enough to wreak of booze the next morning. Nobody is perfect but there's a line between honest mistake/learn from it type actions and being just flat out stupid. If you want to show up to work trashed then work somewhere where it isn't national news when you get caught. SKW and 'drunk pilot arrested' isn't a headline I enjoy seeing on news feeds. This sense of entitlement and "hey man, you don't know what he's going through, you're not perfect either" attitude is BS IMO. Let's all come together, hold hands, and send up thoughts and prayers for this pour soul that he gets the treatment he needs and can come back stronger than ever...give me a break

Obviously you have never been to Wan Chai.:D

No need. TSA will sniff them.

Not really, annoyed for about 5 seconds maybe. But like I said, I never really left. And nothing your daddy does will change that. But thanks for continuing to prove it.;)

My airline has a MAX average line value of 88 hours. And any line above 95 hours has to be approved by the scheduling committee. And I thought that wasn't that great.

Clearly you have never flown a 12 day international trip.

Cajun, hope you never make an error in judgement, or if you do it will not be on the news. If you watched the video, that individual absolutely knew about what can happen to an individual under the influence, but it still happened to him. He was a naval flight surgeon.
As pilots we get lots of information on what to do and what not to do, but yet pilots still do it. Good luck in your career.

Thank you. This wasn't a mistake or an unfortunate turn of circumstance that befell him, he made a consious decision to report for work imparied. I have witnessed addictions of all sorts firsthand. I absolutely understand how insidious and life-consuming addiction can be. It does not excuse allowing it to endanger the lives of others. Feeling empathetic for the struggle an addict is going through and having zero tolerance for behaviors like this are not mutually exclusive reactions. This pilot, and any who reports for duty intoxicated, fails their obligation to the public trust in spectacular fashion and does not belong anywhere near the pointy end of an aircraft. I have zero sympathy for someone who disgraces my profession this way. I hope he gets the help he needs and learns a lesson that changes his life.

My comments were about addiction itself. The part of my brain that is responsible for empathy was never really developed. I automatically default to telling people how stupid their decisions were and that they should of done whatever differently.