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Old 10-27-2016 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CrosswindSolo
Just to play devil's advocate, the E175 could be a pro as it has a longer future than 50 seaters. Then again I wouldn't leverage the E175 over the CRJ900 in that argument.

I do think it's comical that one of Mesa's arguments is "we have no 50 seaters to park," yet they're gonna have to start parking planes if they don't start paying their pilots something close to the industry average.

Yes. Indeed.............
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Old 10-27-2016 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Quarryman
I'm at a loss as to what makes the E175 this wonder jet of the modern age? Pay me what I am worth and I will fly your 172 around. The airframe type is NOT a benefit unless someone can explain to me what's so special about this mystical chariot of the heavens?
Just throwing my two cents in: I went from the 145 to 175. Before I was crediting around 75 hours with 12-13 days off and now I'm averaging a little more than 80 hours with 14-16 days off. The airplane does matter when it comes to scheduling efficiencies and the routes they are chosen to fly. The same argument could be made for the crj 7 and 9's.

Is it worth it to go to a regional with substandard pay and benefits to fly a 175? Definitely not. Is under the wing jet time going to get you more ladies or an interview at mainline? Most likely not. At least it can get you a few more days off a month.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 08:36 AM
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9E

Pros:
- Retention Bonus
- iPads confirmed
- I'm somehow Senior even though I just started
- About to get free food in the JFK crew room
- Someome fixed the wifi here

Cons:
- Retention Bonus is temporary, sort of
- iPads long overdue
- They only just brought out the food and I have a flight in an hour
- WiFi will need some beefing up for the iPads
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Old 10-27-2016 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Quarryman
I'm at a loss as to what makes the E175 this wonder jet of the modern age? Pay me what I am worth and I will fly your 172 around. The airframe type is NOT a benefit unless someone can explain to me what's so special about this mystical chariot of the heavens?
To help you understand....Mesa is so bad that I need to list it as a pro.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrittle
To help you understand....Mesa is so bad that I need to list it as a pro.
Mesa cons, in addition:
You WILL BE SUED if leave early
You WILL get stuck in Hawaii with poverty wages, and sued if you quit early.
You MUST sign promissory note
Well hell, if you read this message board and still go to Mesa, you deserve what you get.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:13 AM
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AWAC

Pros

We still pay pretty well

Solid contract

Great healthcare

Cons

We have no future

We have no future

We have no future
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
Mesa cons, in addition:
You WILL BE SUED if leave early
You WILL get stuck in Hawaii with poverty wages, and sued if you quit early.
You MUST sign promissory note
Well hell, if you read this message board and still go to Mesa, you deserve what you get.
I don't think Mesa has a Hawaii base anymore. Any current YV guy feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.
Everything else is probably spot on though.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
I don't think Mesa has a Hawaii base anymore. Any current YV guy feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.
Everything else is probably spot on though.
Rumored to reopen. If you get based there, you will be stuck due to the pre employment bonus contract.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
Mesa cons, in addition:
You WILL BE SUED if leave early
You WILL get stuck in Hawaii with poverty wages, and sued if you quit early.
You MUST sign promissory note
Well hell, if you read this message board and still go to Mesa, you deserve what you get.
Iflyrc- at the risk of high jacking my own thread, can you please ask those being sued to contact me? I would greatly appreciate it! I'd like to learn more about the process. I've hired a labor relations lawyer to review the contract and will act according. If it's deemed a legal and binding contract, I will follow the terms and relief stipulated in the pilot contract; give 45 days notice and pay, period! I've done the math...a pilot is better off leaving early and paying vs staying with the very low pay. This applies to low time FO's only.

Back to the thread- For those that answered the question, thank you. With recruiters not providing the whole story, misinformation and referral bonus, it's hard to get accurate information anywhere.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrittle
Iflyrc- at the risk of high jacking my own thread, can you please ask those being sued to contact me? I would greatly appreciate it! I'd like to learn more about the process. I've hired a labor relations lawyer to review the contract and will act according. If it's deemed a legal and binding contract, I will follow the terms and relief stipulated in the pilot contract; give 45 days notice and pay, period! I've done the math...a pilot is better off leaving early and paying vs staying with the very low pay. This applies to low time FO's only.

Back to the thread- For those that answered the question, thank you. With recruiters not providing the whole story, misinformation and referral bonus, it's hard to get accurate information anywhere.
With Mesa, it's not a training contract, it's a promissory note.
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