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Easiest solution end the regionals and bring ALL flying back to mainline where it never should have left.

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Originally Posted by jethikoki (Post 2250736)

Easiest solution end the regionals and bring ALL flying back to mainline where it never should have left.

That's a great idea if you want to see an explosion of LCC. When mainline only serves major cities

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2250695)

The short range version of the MRJ 90 is at 87.3. The MRJ 70 is less and meets scope. They tried to shave the weight. Wing failed and is being beefed up.

Oh come on how do you know that?

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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock (Post 2250677)

If you take the standard version of the MRJ90 and put in two class with economy plus or whatever you want to call it and reduce the pax down, you could get it inside the weight requirement if re-certified. I'm not sure how difficult the actual re-certification would be but it's possible. With the normal 9 first class configuration you already see in the market, it would also be 81 seats. You could add more first or more economy plus but maybe that would ruin the RVSM. The E2 is supposedly way heavier than the MRJ. Something like 10000 lbs on MGTOW but I can't remember exactly. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

They might be able to recertifify the short range version but the problem is it only goes like 1100nm. Maybe that's acceptable for RJs as it should be regional routes but it seems a bit low.

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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2250597)

There will always be a market for efficient aircraft in all seat categories. The E2 in all flavors fills that need.

The next 25 years will not be quite like the past...and Delta, AAL, and UAL do not have a global monopoly on air transport.

They have a monopoly on US hub-and-spoke, which is a very large market, I think larger than any other single global market niche.

For much the rest of the world, most airline flying is not a routine thing so customers don't care about frequency. One A380 per week is just fine, since it's cheaper per seat than say five daily NB/RJ flights, seven days/week.

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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2250597)

Foreign carriers operate on different models, as do the LCCs.

The ones that have the kind of density that supports high-frequency RJ flying also tend to have a lot of high-speed rail (Japan & Western Europe).

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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2250597)

Besides, if large "regional jets" (kind of ironic, compared to the PAX capacity of early 737s) really are that great at saving $$$$, then the majors might just have to swallow their pride and operate them directly.

They're not great at saving money, what they do is provide frequency which is important to the kind of habitual flyers we have in the US market. If operated by mainline, they would mostly lose money.

In the past operating RJ's at a loss was accepted and justified as feed for mainline hubs. Lately majors prefer that almost all of their flying turn a profit, but the pendulum could swing back.

But if the pilot shortage is real, then the other possible paradigm change would be reduced frequency, operating NB's on former RJ routes just not as often. PAX would not be happy if they had to take the one flight out of Podunk Falls at 0600 to connect to an international departure at 2230...

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2250554)

LOL exactly. That didn't even make sense.

When and if they ask us about it, I hope we simply say "you can't afford it" and walk out.

Not one more seat, not one more pound, not one more airframe. Let the regionals choke on their current fleet options. Not our problem. JetBlue flies the E190 at 10% less than their A320 pay. We can do the exact same thing for these pathetically sent to market "scope jets", or they can eat them. Whatever.

If Delta flies the ERJ-175 and pays DC9/717 wages, they are setting the new industry standard wages higher. So when a company like RAH goes into their next negotiating session and the issue of pay becomes a point where the parties cannot come to an agreement, industry standard pay becomes relevant to binding arbitration or an imposed settlement. What are you guys smokin?

Skyw could fly all 100 for Alaska right?
Please vote in scope Alaska if true.

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Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2250986)

Skyw could fly all 100 for Alaska right?
Please vote in scope Alaska if true.

You should be more concerned with E190-E2 and E195-E2 at Alaska

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Originally Posted by thump (Post 2250998)

You should be more concerned with E190-E2 and E195-E2 at Alaska

Also terrifying.