With Trump in office, scope limiations of US labor groups. I believe the Asian Pacific trade policies will be dominated by the Chinese. Asian carriers will buy MRJ and send a signal to the west. Chinese carriers will most buy the MRJ.

Look at the Delays & cost addon's for our military fight jet programs (F-35, and many others over the years)... Billions in cost overruns & yrs of delays.

Shyt like this is common. Let's not insinuate the MRJ is bad aircraft platform. Competition is GOOD.

They need to charge their marketing approach to convince airline managements that the airframe can be operated at the mainline. Hoping for scope changes is a fools errand.

So Asian airlines will buy the MRJ over the Embraair from Brazil because Trump is president?

Ooh no no no bad hombre.... We just don't have any concrete idea of the influence or impact his superfluously boasted "tough on Asia" trade policies has had or will have on the renewed (reopened) Japan-China's growing trade talks. China's growing Asia Pacific trade policies is shaping up nicely for Asian countries like Phillipines, Indonesia, Japan, and more, as "America 1st" spreads.

Aviation is very sensitive to political bravado. Most airlines have been weak to recongnize this except Delta (reasons they left A4A). Policies are huge impact on the U.S. aviation industry and our Alliances (One World, Star Alliance, SkyTeam). Including strength or a weak US Dollar. Airlines for America (A4A) is weak and broad. It needs to do a lot better job @ lobbying US Congress, and the Executive branch. PFC fee's and other fee's Airlines have to charge passengers, etc., needs to be removed. $4.50 airport facility charge (and increasing) has negative effects our bottom line.

I think its important for pilots to have a better understanding of globalization, banking, trade & immigration policies' of our executive and legislative branch on Airlines/Aviation and transporation as a whole. We focus on the pennies and lose sight of the whole dollar.

So it's bigger than Trump, I wish him success. I hope this shapes out good for American, Delta, United. I'm hoping things work out, for the sake of global stability & world-wide confidence in America.

Sounds serious, "technical problems with the electronics". Seven years delayed, this is no F35, stick a fork in it.

The problems emerged once the planes got to the US and Boeing engineers got a look at them. Talk about newbie mistakes on MHI's part.

https://leehamnews.com/2017/01/23/mr...ayed-mid-2020/

The aircraft development started with a Japanese team and this team did not have the expertise needed to understand all the implications of modern certification requirements.

As the Seattle development center and the Moses Lake test center came online, experienced engineers coming from, e.g. Boeing, got insight into the program. The Western workforce started finding oversights in the work of the Japanese team.

The first conclusion of the reviews these teams made was the test program was not realistic. It was based on how aircraft were tested and certified historically. You fly and measure and then decide if things are OK.

This is not how tests are done today. You prepare the test thoroughly, you simulate the test results in a ground environment and you only fly when the ground tests show that you can have a fault-free test flight. Test flights are made to verify results, not to explore developments.

As the international engineering team dived deeper into the design of the MRJ, it found more issues. The MHI press release states that the project needs “revisions of certain systems and electrical configurations on the aircraft to meet the latest requirements for certification.”

You never really know, but I don't see the Chinese buying Japanese aircraft. The Chinese hate the Japanese.

With a passion we can't begin to appreciate!

That sure sounds like what he wrote!!

I'm certain it will be YYYYYUUUUUGGGGGEEEE!

Airlines will have problems staffing their 100 seaters, how could they add
70 seaters.

I doubt you will ever see any of the big 4 have trouble staffing their flying. The forums predicted huge problems now and thousands of qualified applicants can't even get a interview.

Why do the Chinese hate the Japanese?

Think WW2.

Google world history regarding the two - especially leading up to and during WWII.

Man has our education system gone downhill! Start by googling the rape of Nanking.

Qualified to fly isn't the same as hireable in their eyes.
If 1,000 mrj's are purchased the mainlines, you think they can find
an additional 10,000 pilots plus the 1,000's they will need to replace their
retirees.

Mainline isn't going to fly anything less than 100 seaters.

Something about invading Poland /s/ :rolleyes:

Will do, thanks! Yeah, some high schools are barely covering US History, let alone World History.

Makes sense now, thanks!

Will do, thanks!

From what I gather from the previous three posts it does have to do with World War II, so you aren't too far off.

Yes. What for a US millennial is barely remembered ancient history are very personal and relevant events to most Asians.

Koreans don't like Japan either, same reason.

91% of the Chinese population wasn't even alive during WW2...Just like millennials. In fact, well over half their population is younger than 50.

The Vietnamese hate the Chinese and the Japanese; the Chinese hate the Japanese; the Koreans hate the Japanese; both the Japanese and Chinese hate the Russians; Turkic Chinese hate the Han Chinese; and that's only the beginning and goes on far longer than WW II

GF

It's a cultural thing, they don't forget. Their governments probably hammer the history lessons home pretty hard.

I deal with it all the time. When we do military exercises with the Japanese and the RoK we have to keep them at arms length from each other.

But if you think that's bad...the Arabs are still butt hurt about the crusades. I mean literally every Arab with a 3rd grade education knows all about it and
lives it every day (you've probably never even heard of the crusades, it was about 1000 years ago).

I'm pretty good with military and general history. I just disagree with your premise that just because someone is a millennial means they don't understand history. A cultural indoctrination of hatred of another's race, nationality, religion, or sex is long lasting and has no regard for age or generation.

I was using millenials as a contrast to asians because they are the first US generation which grew up without being immersed in WW2 culture. Asians are still marinating in it, nothing against millenials for that.

My parents lived through it, grandparents fought in it, and many of the movies, TV shows, and toys of my youth were WW2 themed. So I grew up hearing the stories first-hand, and Germans and Japanese were in the bad guy category, same as the outlaws in the westerns.

They do teach much about Asian history, even in college courses.

Why do the Vietnamese hate the Chinese and Japanese?

At least they're taught about their history. It's pretty sad that you have to take a college course on the American Revolution and Civil War just to learn about it. In Western Civilization and US History courses they're just mentioned.

Or read some of those book thingys.

And, culturally, they revere their elderly and believe that wisdom lies therein. Ask any US teenager if s/he thinks that is true.

I don't revere anyone because they are old. I revere and respect people that deserve to be respected. Living more than 60 years isn't impressive in and of itself.

Are you a US teenager?

There is that too.

With NAI, there's a whole new dynamic (camel's nose) under the tent.

Come on Trump!!


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Wrong, you show respect to everyone. I bet u don't disrespect your pax even though they haven't "earned" it. Big talker!

Respect everyone you meet until they give you reason to revoke it. It's easy to maintain respect. It's quite difficult to earn it back.

Time to get the train back on the rails. Does any US mainline or otherwise have any orders for these aircraft? Seems like no one would have a use for them given almost every legacy carrier is upgaging their routes.

There's two thousand years of China trying to dominate Indochina (Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia). As recently as 1979, Chinese army crossed into Vietnam with 50,000 Vietnamese dead in the end. As to the Japanese, the 20th century for recent experience.

As a friend in HKG says, "they get along as long as they are making money, take the money away and everybody in Asia will killing each other".

GF

Leaving aside two billion Asians who have a deeply ingrained disagreement with you; how do you get along in a seniority system?

GF

Does Transtates still have orders for the E2? I think at one point they had 50, but I'm not sure if they still have them.

What on earth are you blabbing about? Because 2 billion Asians have an ingrained respect for elders means 1) they are the only ones doing it right and 2) I should too? In a simplistic form, you do realize that one of the major reasons America even exists and has become as powerful as it has is because it has rejected old world traditions for more innovative ones.

There are a billion Chinese who are okay with an authoritarian government. Maybe we should be more like them because they clearly are doing it right.

I still don't give respect to my elders solely because they have been breathing longer than me. It's not hard. Billions of people live every day. You make the mistake of assuming that the opposite of "I don't respect my elders solely because they are old" is "I default to disrespecting everyone." That isnt how words work.