Loss of Medical Insurance
#21
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From: RJ Captain
Doesn't that take 12 months after losing the medical to kick in? Unless they're assuming some sort of company short-term disability will provide filler coverage for that gap..? Also seems to offer pretty limited pay outs for lower-paid regional folks. Not saying it isn't helpful, but certainly seems to be of limited use-- if I still didn't have a medical back after a year, I'd have very likely moved on, at least temporarily. My biggest need would be right away, the weeks following an unexpected loss of medical while looking for a filler job. Maybe it'd help someone out who goes back to school or takes a lower-paying ramp job, etc. Or maybe I'm misreading the plan details...
And for anybody else reading, sign up for the STD as a new hire. They make it nearly impossible to sign up for it after that.
#22
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Also don't forget that say you do the LOM insurance and you start a different job because lets face it $24k/year isn't enough. they don't pay the $24k on top of what you earn at your different job. they split the difference. So you get a job a Home depot at $8/hr. they will only pay the difference of what you make at home depot and what you selected for your plan. And then there is also STD and LTD which goes into pay and I have no clue if LOM is paid on top of that or only after that is used up or what the case is. Lots of gotchas and isn't as simple as they made it sound previously
#23
Long term disability doesn't start until after 6 months. I presume you meant to say you'd cancel the 7 day STD plan but still stay on the 30 day. I know of several pilots that didn't buy into the STD and wound up losing their medicals for over 6 months.
Another consideration is that Cobra payments are easily over a $1000 a month and the company starts make you pay those not too long into a leave of absence.
Another consideration is that Cobra payments are easily over a $1000 a month and the company starts make you pay those not too long into a leave of absence.
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Someday I'll have savings to absorb a 50% pay cut; I don't at this time. I suspect some others don't as well. So it just seems that a "loss of medical" plan would be more useful if it kicked in right away, when someone needs coverage the most. Yes that would probably affect disability benefits (they often reduce if you're multi-covered), but even a few-month period of coverage at close to original salary would help the vast majority of medically-challenged pilots bridge the gap till the FAA gives them back their medical (it was four months when it happened to me). In any event, after a year, I would hope that I wasn't still living off of 50% disability coverage. The loss of medical insurance is more of a "beyond one year" extension of short- and long-term disability, it seems. And like those plans, it doesn't pay anywhere near your original salary. So realistically, after a few weeks/months, most folks are going to have a new job or be in school, etc. I suspect, at which point the coverage wouldn't do a lot of good, depending on the details of the plan (i.e. if it reduces when you earn outside income, as most seem to do).
Might be good for some folks, of course.
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From: RJ Captain
Do you have to pay for your LTD?
SkyWest pays for the LTD and those benefits are taxed, and it cover months 7-24.. I believe you get 55% of your pay. STD pays 60% of pay and is tax free.
I went in for a medical a few years back feeling great and then didn't get to work again for nearly 4 months. Fortunately I had the 7 day STD plan an it paid out more than I'll ever pay in premiums until age 65. Getting the medical denied was a complete surprise.
SkyWest pays for the LTD and those benefits are taxed, and it cover months 7-24.. I believe you get 55% of your pay. STD pays 60% of pay and is tax free.
I went in for a medical a few years back feeling great and then didn't get to work again for nearly 4 months. Fortunately I had the 7 day STD plan an it paid out more than I'll ever pay in premiums until age 65. Getting the medical denied was a complete surprise.
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You said: "Seriously? Regional airlines don't offer medical insurance?" Sometimes regional folks get talked down to by folks at the big boys and/or guys headed to the big boys (maybe that is or isn't you, as a military guy), and it gets old. Maybe that wasn't your intent. If not, I apologize. But even the lowest of the low offer some form of medical coverage. The "employer mandate" of the affordable care act says so. If you're dabbling in joining the 121 regional world, I assume you've visited "careers" sections of airline websites, and you'd see that our employers -- who have thousands of employees -- offer some form of health insurance, just as any other employer in America.
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Do you have to pay for your LTD?
SkyWest pays for the LTD and those benefits are taxed, and it cover months 7-24.. I believe you get 55% of your pay. STD pays 60% of pay and is tax free.
I went in for a medical a few years back feeling great and then didn't get to work again for nearly 4 months. Fortunately I had the 7 day STD plan an it paid out more than I'll ever pay in premiums until age 65. Getting the medical denied was a complete surprise.
SkyWest pays for the LTD and those benefits are taxed, and it cover months 7-24.. I believe you get 55% of your pay. STD pays 60% of pay and is tax free.
I went in for a medical a few years back feeling great and then didn't get to work again for nearly 4 months. Fortunately I had the 7 day STD plan an it paid out more than I'll ever pay in premiums until age 65. Getting the medical denied was a complete surprise.
My medical issue sounds similar to yours -- went it expecting to walk out with medical in hand. Instead, it was a phone call to the boss saying "take me off the schedule..." Not ideal, ha.
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You can sign on sapa promises but I think I will get all of the information first.
#29
You said: "Seriously? Regional airlines don't offer medical insurance?" Sometimes regional folks get talked down to by folks at the big boys and/or guys headed to the big boys (maybe that is or isn't you, as a military guy), and it gets old. Maybe that wasn't your intent. If not, I apologize. But even the lowest of the low offer some form of medical coverage. The "employer mandate" of the affordable care act says so. If you're dabbling in joining the 121 regional world, I assume you've visited "careers" sections of airline websites, and you'd see that our employers -- who have thousands of employees -- offer some form of health insurance, just as any other employer in America.
Sorry for the thread derail. Carry-on!
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