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Old 12-26-2017, 04:15 PM
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The AA WO flow probably won't mean much to someone hiring on now because by the time they flow the forced retirement hiring wave will be over. They will likely hire on as an OTS somewhere else. Endeavor and Commutair and I think Expressjet do get you the interview at Delta or United for the latter two, but it's up to you to pass. Republic right now offers nothing although there will be tons of their pilots getting hired OTS at the majors. Those who should worry is the lifers that have already been deemed un-hireable by majors. They will likely not be hired until the end of the wave and spend the rest of their career on the bottom. Staying at RAH won't be an option if they don't exist at some point in the future due to staffing.
Damn. You just summed up the remainder of my career. I fully expect to be unemployed within the next five years as the regional industry implodes.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:22 PM
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One of the best parts of the flow isn't you actually flowing (although that is great, too). It is the fact that you move up in seniority "X" numbers each month guaranteed.

At the AA WO, there is outside attrition, plus flows, meaning that you move up quite a bit every month. In addition, there is also growth with all 3 WO growing. On the FO side, you can move up a fairly large number in seniority every month. It is a lot of fun to watch.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:30 PM
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If my goal is to end up at either Southwest or Delta, does Republic put me at any disadvantage compared to any other regional airline?
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stfoley23 View Post
If my goal is to end up at either Southwest or Delta, does Republic put me at any disadvantage compared to any other regional airline?
Nope. We’ve had LOTS of folks head off to both SWA and the big D over the years.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stfoley23 View Post
If my goal is to end up at either Southwest or Delta, does Republic put me at any disadvantage compared to any other regional airline?
Funny you mention those two. They hire us the most. 70 to SW this year. Those who get hired are usually captains and have been here a few years so it’s not a right away thing by any means but it is something.
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Old 12-27-2017, 06:36 AM
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Republic represents a large portion of regional new hires (as does SkyWest and ExpressJet).
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Old 12-27-2017, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by stfoley23 View Post
If my goal is to end up at either Southwest or Delta, does Republic put me at any disadvantage compared to any other regional airline?
We’re in the top the regionals hired at both those airlines. Obviously you have to do your time, and get the experience, but totally doable.
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond View Post
One of the best parts of the flow isn't you actually flowing (although that is great, too). It is the fact that you move up in seniority "X" numbers each month guaranteed
Until all of a sudden the flow goes the wrong way and people above you on the list start coming out of nowhere. You go backwards!

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At the AA WO, there is outside attrition, plus flows, meaning that you move up quite a bit every month. In addition, there is also growth with all 3 WO growing. On the FO side, you can move up a fairly large number in seniority every month. It is a lot of fun to watch.
Lovely, guaranteed growth at WO regionals, jobs that could be yours at mainline. I do hope you realize that ANY regional growth is bad. These should all be mainline jobs with mainline pay, mainline benefits, and mainline job security. Period.
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:27 AM
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Until all of a sudden the flow goes the wrong way and people above you on the list start coming out of nowhere. You go backwards!



Lovely, guaranteed growth at WO regionals, jobs that could be yours at mainline. I do hope you realize that ANY regional growth is bad. These should all be mainline jobs with mainline pay, mainline benefits, and mainline job security. Period.
Piedmont’s flow doesn’t flow backwards, it’s a one way street. When you do flow, you go on a leave of absence until you pass your checkrides, then you are shown as gone. Only way you flow back is if you fail out of training at AA, then you go back to PDT. Can’t speak for psa or Envoy as I’m not well versed in their flow agreements.
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Old 12-28-2017, 05:50 AM
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Until all of a sudden the flow goes the wrong way and people above you on the list start coming out of nowhere. You go backwards!

We have ZERO flow back protection at Pdt. If you go you’re gone. Unless you can’t pass Training. (There has been a handful) you can come back. These were 25-30 year dash drivers. Years ago at this point.

Lovely, guaranteed growth at WO regionals, jobs that could be yours at mainline. I do hope you realize that ANY regional growth is bad. These should all be mainline jobs with mainline pay, mainline benefits, and mainline job security. Period.
In ONLY PDTs situation growth here has been so great. No one cares about this place few years ago. Was 425 pilot but w a mature contract was making a 1/3 more than the pilots at RAH. The people who were hired in 2011 are the real winners. They are flowing this year and most are 28-32 years old. Flow personally set me back 2 years as my SSP was taken away before I had A grand in left seat. Still made it by 35 tho... flow for someone hired today isn’t anything special. Sure you will probably be hired at AA, but if you’re not in by 2019 at ANY legacy you missed the wave. This is so obvious to anyone who can read The data. Legit data. So go where you upgrade the fastest can get into Training Dept and leave. If I was 23 again I’d still go to the place w fastest upgrade like I did A decade ago. Pdt is hiring direct into Training Dept During new hire Training. Is RAH doing the same?
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