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05-14-2020 | 09:39 AM

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I’d just imagine that with every single student becoming a CFI they would eventually run out of students to teach. Although, that’s assuming each CFI is able to teach more than one student.

Thats the problem they will run into in the long run. In the short run they are short of CFIs.

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It wouldnt surprise me if it was true, they also have changed the free structure from the flat rate $65k to an optional flat monthly fee, so the faster you go, the cheaper it works out overall, alternatively they are so short of CFI's that its taking people way longer and costing them more.

Never heard of this new structure. And unless I'm blind, there is a table at the end of the enrollment agreement for my class (Dec 2019) which breaks the 85K into 12 chunks. And it's based on days at lift and not hrs flown.

05-14-2020 | 10:06 AM

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I’d just imagine that with every single student becoming a CFI they would eventually run out of students to teach. Although, that’s assuming each CFI is able to teach more than one student.

The program hasn't been active that long.

05-14-2020 | 03:06 PM

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What has caused such a shortage of CFIs? With the nature of the program you would think there would be a surplus.

The CFI pipeline is starting to flow, but they are currently at a 9 student to 1 CFI ratio last time I checked. The biggest problem is that pay went from $35 per hour, to $25 per hour to a flat salary of $30k (which in the summer had the guys clocking in at barely $10 per hour in the summer months). Now with the enforced 20% cut we are down to $26k (after just getting a pay raise to $32k).

They simply cannot attract CFIs from outside. (before the virus)

05-14-2020 | 08:24 PM

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The pay is definitely lower than some other CFI gigs. Does the lower cost of living make $26k manageable?

06-10-2020 | 12:00 PM

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Looks like all change at Lift, the Republic sponsorship has been removed for new students and there is no longer a guaranteed job at YX upon reaching 1500. New students will also need to purchase all of their equipment (headsets, uniforms etc) rather than having it issued.

06-10-2020 | 05:03 PM

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i understand the need to cut costs due to uncertainty, but this model is just like other accelerated programs out there now. Will be hard to get students unless they are in the local area.

06-10-2020 | 05:04 PM

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i understand the need to cut costs due to uncertainty, but this model is just like other accelerated programs out there now. Will be hard to get students unless they are in the local area.

I don’t think they’re worried about that. They will bring it back when they need to...

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06-10-2020 | 05:42 PM

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i understand the need to cut costs due to uncertainty, but this model is just like other accelerated programs out there now. Will be hard to get students unless they are in the local area.

Welcome to the airline world. Supply vs demand, and the tables have turned. Pilots are no longer in demand nor needed. Republic simply can't afford to subsidize students when they don't need them.

06-10-2020 | 07:19 PM

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i understand the need to cut costs due to uncertainty, but this model is just like other accelerated programs out there now. Will be hard to get students unless they are in the local area.

True, why come all the way to Indy to have WX delays in your training when you can go down south. A bigger problem for future students is that they also pulled the finance option, so several students in the next class have already pulled out due to lack of funding. Finding an $85k loan isn’t easy these days.