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Old 05-03-2019, 11:24 PM
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Thanks for the insight! Much appreciated!

I assume you are at Republic now and came from a fractional. Mind sharing the motivation behind that move?
I started at Republic at 28. It came down to money over the course of my career. Going to a legacy or a LCC is a big bump in pay
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Old 05-06-2019, 02:28 PM
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Yes I meant years, especially in the more senior captain bases (MCI, IND, MIA, IAH). It takes longer to hold a line in the left seat than it did as an FO. It will also take longer to get the same good trips back that you had as an FO.
Not to hijack the thread, but to my understanding, it’s about a 12 month wait to get MIA as a FO. Is that accurate? Also, how long until An FO can hold MIA as a CA?
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Old 05-06-2019, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer View Post
Not to hijack the thread, but to my understanding, it’s about a 12 month wait to get MIA as a FO. Is that accurate? Also, how long until An FO can hold MIA as a CA?
The junior bidding FO in MIA is a late July 2018 hire, so more like 9 months at the moment. Not sure how long they've been there.

The junior bidding CA at MIA is an August 2016 hire, while the junior CA I believe is a November 2016 hire, so not quite 3 years to hold MIA as a CA, and if you took the first available upgrade, as of right now it would take you about 3-4 months to get to MIA once you upgraded.

Of course, this will all change for a new hire on property right now by the time things like upgrade roll around.
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Old 05-06-2019, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by da1dp View Post
Hey all, long-time lurker and first time poster here!

I'm a KC native and probably 2-4 years from from 1500 hrs depending on if and how aggressively I approach a career change to becoming a pilot. Still working through ratings...but considering ramping things up...

I went into this thinking I definitely only want to fly charter/fractional, but I've lately been considering the airline route.
If you are considering the airline route then you ought to be SERIOUSLY considering ramping things up. Why is that? Because where you want to end up is living in base at a major airline. And the quickest way for that to happen is for you to get to a regional where you can start flying some SERIOUS hours. Hours that count. Turbine hours. 121 SIC and PIC hours.

And how quickly you do that is important because seniority is EVERYTHING in quality of life AND pay (not necessarily synonymous) in the airline world and the legacy airlines are starting to retire large numbers due to the age 65 cutoff for airline flying.

Those numbers will continue for quite awhile but (depending on the individual airline) they will PEAK in the 2022 to 2025 timeframe.

You are going to be spending a minimum of three years at a regional to be competitive for an upper tier major and two for a second tier major. The closer your hire date can be to the peak of those retirements (if not before it) the better your QOL and pay is going to be. The fewer people hired behind you, the worse your pay and QOL is going to be. It's as simple as that.
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Old 05-07-2019, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 View Post
The junior bidding FO in MIA is a late July 2018 hire, so more like 9 months at the moment. Not sure how long they've been there.

The junior bidding CA at MIA is an August 2016 hire, while the junior CA I believe is a November 2016 hire, so not quite 3 years to hold MIA as a CA, and if you took the first available upgrade, as of right now it would take you about 3-4 months to get to MIA once you upgraded.

Of course, this will all change for a new hire on property right now by the time things like upgrade roll around.
This was super helpful! Thank you!
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:52 PM
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Anyone have any insight as to how long the wait for IOE is?
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:47 PM
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Anyone have any insight as to how long the wait for IOE is?
Depends on when you finish sims (checkride) within your class. If you’re on the front end of your class, maybe a couple weeks at longest. If you’re one on the last to finish sims, then it could be s month. Upgrades have really slowed down, so I wouldn’t expect long sits after sims.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:25 AM
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With KC’s cost of living and our pay rates (especially CA), MCI has to be one of, if not the best base out of any regional for QOL.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:01 PM
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With KC’s cost of living and our pay rates (especially CA), MCI has to be one of, if not the best base out of any regional for QOL.
I’d have to throw Indy in there as well. Indy’s cost of living is lower than KC’s, believe it or not.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:32 PM
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I’d have to throw Indy in there as well. Indy’s cost of living is lower than KC’s, believe it or not.
Yeah, you’re right. IAH is pretty cheap too actually.
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