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Old 11-30-2019, 07:04 PM
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Maybe time for an ALPA push after “The Irishman” debut on Netflix?

All jokes aside was a great movie. Just funny to see the depiction of our Teamsters of the past!
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Maybe time for an ALPA push after “The Irishman” debut on Netflix?



All jokes aside was a great movie. Just funny to see the depiction of our Teamsters of the past!


Anyone who has been in the regional industry for more than a minute is acutely aware that ALPA for regionals is just as much of a ****show puppet performance as the Teamsters, if not more.


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Anyone who has been in the regional industry for more than a minute is acutely aware that ALPA for regionals is just as much of a ****show puppet performance as the Teamsters, if not more.


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For regionals, correct. ALPA is designed for Ma and Pa and if a contract is in the benefit of the regionals that fly for them it’s not in the benefit of Ma and Pa
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Um, nah bro...

For starters, ALPA is not a union. It’s an association. It’s very much driven by the MEC or “local”. National provides tools, training, and legislative interests that are mutually beneficial to all member airlines. Even some who are not members: you are welcome for KCM. They do not control the individual MECs or have influence in there decision. Every MEC is independent.
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Um, nah bro...

For starters, ALPA is not a union. It’s an association. It’s very much driven by the MEC or “local”. National provides tools, training, and legislative interests that are mutually beneficial to all member airlines. Even some who are not members: you are welcome for KCM. They do not control the individual MECs or have influence in there decision. Every MEC is independent.
Not trying to be too pedantic here, but what exactly is the difference with labeling it an “association vs a union” when functionally they’re very similar? The teamsters has the “national” with the PACs and the big money, while each “local” operates with a certain amount of autonomy and is made up of the local workers. I’m by no means a fan of the teamsters and I think ALPA is actually better because it’s primary focus is aviation. There are much better pilot related resources available through ALPA vs the teamsters. The teamsters is geared primarily towards the trucking and waste management industries with aviation just kinda tacked in as a side hustle. I’m not denigrating those industries, just pointing out that they’re very different in needs and priorities.
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