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I would say there is a much higher chance of cares round 2 than passengers magically rising to the point of no furloughs in 2 months.

Burt123

2 months? Or 4 months?

The primary reason why pax are not booking is because of these lockdowns. The majority of states are starting to slowly lift, BUT the vacation resorts and other amenities that come with vacations are not lifting now or have severe restrictions that people don’t want to deal with (no sunbathing, no more than 2 people on a boat, etc. stupid sh@t like that). Once everything returns back to “normal,” as in everything is lifted (has to happen soon or the economy along with the current administration is down the tubes) there will be a high demand in travel again. If people are really that afraid to fly on an airplane due to the virus, then cruise lines wouldn’t be booked solid 3 months out.

I’m leaning more towards the optimistic end, at least to the point where furloughs won’t be as deep as thought. You can’t predict the number of regional furloughs off of what mainline is predicting. The regional model is what’s going to keep mainline in business.

DigDougShovelCo

Full agree. I also think that passengers want flights that give the appearance of social distancing. Whether its half or 3/4 full, passengers for the time being don't want full flights. I'd guess that somewhere between 1-1.5 million passengers per day (from 2-2.5 mill last year) will be enough for the vast majority at least in the regional industry to keep their jobs. Mainline will likely see more furloughs at least from the decline in long haul travel.

itsmytime

agreed. People want to travel, but feel entitled to a whole row on a jetliner.

NFGCDCTL

Even given the choice of getting off, they choose to ride on the full airliner in most cases.
Unless there is a huge second wave of the virus, I think the empty plane era is going to be a bad memory. But, we are still only operating a fraction of the volume of flights that we should be operating. That volume most likely won’t go up until mainline can start seeing numbers in the black again.

KCaviator

Rumors of BOS, IAH, and MCI closing.

mrfishy

from who

LoneStar32

IAH I can see, United has not given us anything out of there in a while and seems like it has no interest to in the future. Surprised about MCI and BOS, I heard the Delta still plans on growing its BOS presence.

btw, the CP is telling recurrent classes to expect additional furloughs come Oct.

direct2entent

IAH is the only one that has been explicitly mentioned as being "evaluated". Where are you hearing BOS and MCI?

moonraker9

How are things going out there, is YX getting more/less flying from the big 3? How is the future looking?

Thanks from someone on the outside looking in! (CJO guy that hasn't been rescinded yet luckily)