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Old 11-19-2021, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OffAtTango View Post
United 170s are going to AA too and we are getting 38 new 175's for United. Look out for the announcement.
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Those E175’s going to be 70 seats? Last time I checked we (UA) was at our scope limits
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Old 11-22-2021, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OffAtTango View Post
United 170s are going to AA too and we are getting 38 new 175's for United. Look out for the announcement.
I have heard this, too, off the record, by someone who would know.
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Old 11-25-2021, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94 View Post
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Those E175’s going to be 70 seats? Last time I checked we (UA) was at our scope limits
Yes, they will have to be E175 SCs in a 70 seat config due to scope limitations.
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Old 11-26-2021, 10:17 AM
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Yes, they will have to be E175 SCs in a 70 seat config due to scope limitations.

So not the big deal the other poster was trying to make it seem. Just trading an used airframe for a shiny new airframe
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Old 11-26-2021, 12:08 PM
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So not the big deal the other poster was trying to make it seem. Just trading an used airframe for a shiny new airframe
if the used ones are going to AA service with republic, it is a big deal
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Old 11-26-2021, 12:17 PM
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So not the big deal the other poster was trying to make it seem. Just trading an used airframe for a shiny new airframe
Our 170s being flown under the UA brand are being converted to 65 seats and being flown for AA.

New 175s will be replacing those 170s one for one on the UA certificate.

This is a sizeable chunk of net growth on the AA side if it comes to fruition. No net growth for UA operations, though.
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Old 12-01-2021, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 View Post
Our 170s being flown under the UA brand are being converted to 65 seats and being flown for AA.

New 175s will be replacing those 170s one for one on the UA certificate.

This is a sizeable chunk of net growth on the AA side if it comes to fruition. No net growth for UA operations, though.
How would we be able to staff 38 additional airframes? Answer: we can't.
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Old 12-04-2021, 07:36 PM
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What was the net gain or loss of pilots from November to December?
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Old 12-10-2021, 12:46 PM
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What was the net gain or loss of pilots from November to December?
I don't know exactly how many people we gained, but we lost 65 pilots off the list in November. They've been adding about 90-100 per month lately, so I'd guess we netted somewhere in the ballpark of 25 pilots last month.

To the best of my knowledge, our pre-COVID high water mark was 2502, which I believe we officially surpassed on the December seniority list. And that number was planned staffing for the Compass airframes. While I don't think we're there yet, I also don't think we're as far off from being able to staff additional airframes as others might, at least based on total numbers on property. The real issue is going to be whether we have enough CAs. This is the second month in a row we haven't filled all our CA vacancies (this month it was 36 out of 60 filled), which is the clearest sign yet that we have a lot of FOs who either don't have the FAA or contractually-required times to upgrade, and/or don't want to give up their existing position for an upgrade. We have a lot of each, and it's going to be something the company struggles with. Good leverage for the pilots, especially if the company comes asking to reduce our 2500 TT upgrade requirement. We have a lot of R-ATPs who aren't currently eligible because of that contract provision.
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 View Post
I don't know exactly how many people we gained, but we lost 65 pilots off the list in November. They've been adding about 90-100 per month lately, so I'd guess we netted somewhere in the ballpark of 25 pilots last month.

To the best of my knowledge, our pre-COVID high water mark was 2502, which I believe we officially surpassed on the December seniority list.
It was a little odd this month, a list came out with 2513, then another came out shortly thereafter with 2501. I guess they hadn't removed the some of the departures yet.
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