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Old 10-02-2022, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquilotti1 View Post
Is there any bonuses added to the new TA?
Bonuses are generally not strictly written out in a contract especially if it’s multiple years long. Pilots generally don’t like bonuses and would rather just have that money included in the pay rate.

That said contracts generally outline whether or not bonuses can be given or not and for what reasons and to who. It helps the company more than anything drive action towards something the company needs. Retention, new hires, upgrades etc.

Going along those line yes bonuses are allowed and basically at the full discretion of the company under the new contract.
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Old 10-02-2022, 09:15 AM
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Thanks for the input. They seem to be very slow to respond.

I applied with all of my hours, ready to go, it was just a matter of getting a class date for me, let’s hope I get my December date and you get your November one, good luck!
Here too. I was done building time a couple decades ago. Just looking for a good QOL for the next decade or so. Fingers crossed my Nov. class date comes through. Best of luck to everyone waiting on a class date.
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Old 10-04-2022, 06:09 AM
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I have a captain upgrade question for everyone.

In the new contract there is language pertaining to pilots who bid reserve as a strategy, allowing them to have no-fly lines if they are willing to upgrade to captain... (I think I got it right).

What prevents the airline from:

1)Offering an upgrade bonus that requires FOs to sign up in advance thereby finding out who wants to become captain
2)Prioritizing less reserve and more flight hours to those new FOs who want to upgrade quicker?

Considering the shortage of captains, wouldn't that be a creative solution? Just a curious question, I have yet much to learn about the operations of the airline.

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Old 10-04-2022, 11:34 AM
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Hypothetically speaking:

What prevents any airline from prioritizing newer FOs who want to build time over those who want to bid reserve? Might the airline offer an early bonus to an FO to sign up in advance for a captain slot when that is available and upon reaching the required hours, and have that FO fly more after signing the captain upgrade agreement?

Just a newbie question..
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Old 10-04-2022, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
Hypothetically speaking:

What prevents any airline from prioritizing newer FOs who want to build time over those who want to bid reserve? Might the airline offer an early bonus to an FO to sign up in advance for a captain slot when that is available and upon reaching the required hours, and have that FO fly more after signing the captain upgrade agreement?

Just a newbie question..
That's what they're trying to do under the new TA apparently.
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Old 10-04-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
Hypothetically speaking:

What prevents any airline from prioritizing newer FOs who want to build time over those who want to bid reserve? Might the airline offer an early bonus to an FO to sign up in advance for a captain slot when that is available and upon reaching the required hours, and have that FO fly more after signing the captain upgrade agreement?

Just a newbie question..
Not really a bonus in the new TA, but you get CA pay when you hit 850 SIC hours and you have a CA bid in at every base. The no-fly lines allows FOs that don’t want to fly to chill at home so that FOs that do want to fly get a line.
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Old 10-04-2022, 03:04 PM
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Sounds a lot better than the forced upgrades Skywest just announce
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Old 10-05-2022, 06:08 AM
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This'll be somewhat redundant, I just wanted to try to explain it in a little more detail....

Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
In the new contract there is language pertaining to pilots who bid reserve as a strategy, allowing them to have no-fly lines if they are willing to upgrade to captain... (I think I got it right).
Not exactly. There's no caveat to the "no fly line". It's just based on seniority and only if the company wants to offer them for the month in questions. It doesn't specify that there are any min amount of those.

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What prevents the airline from:

1)Offering an upgrade bonus that requires FOs to sign up in advance thereby finding out who wants to become captain
They are already doing that by offering first year CA pay to anyone with 850 hours + signs up for upgrade....

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2)Prioritizing less reserve and more flight hours to those new FOs who want to upgrade quicker?
Seniority rules prevent this, that's why they had to start the no fly line as a method to allow this.
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Considering the shortage of captains, wouldn't that be a creative solution?
It would, but, you can't take that scheduling flexibility away from senior people because of the contract. Seniority is king in the airline industry.
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