Web265

When on reserve, and called to get to the airport ASAP, you have two hours from the time of the call to arrive at the gate, period. The 45 minutes isn't an issue. Say first officer Smith is working a trip with a stop in LGA, he gets sick and calls off the rest of the trip and there's only 90 minutes till scheduled departure. They call you in for the flight, you still have 2 hours to get there and the flight will just leave 30 (ish minutes late).

If while on reserve they assign you a flight 4 hours in the future (or anything more than 2:44), you're expected to be there 45 minutes prior to departure.

Once you are a line holder, you are expected to arrive at the gate 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure time. Anything after that and you are technically late.
​​​​​rickair7777 eluded to about breaking into that 45 min window is a grey area you should avoid if you possibly can. Defecation occurs, If you can't avoid being a few minutes late, communicate with your CA so he/she knows exactly what's going on, without that contact they don't know if you're showing at all and may call crew scheduling. No bueno.

Bricky

Everyone answered your questions. If you choose Republic welcome to the fam!

Oh you can also select to not be called first if your on reserve. Then scheduling could pick someone more eager to fly.

GL

flykin

I don't believe this is actually the case. Our indoc instructor taught us that we need to be past security by the 45 minute mark. He made this a big point and said it multiple times. He said the crew will call scheduling at the 30 minute mark, but if you keep them posted, they probably won't. So this basically gives you 15 minutes to get to your gate after getting through security. Which in most cases is enough time. At no point do they tell us we have to be at the gate 45 minutes prior to departure. If you care enough, check the FOM and provide a reference/quote for us.

ChronicFatigue

We're supposed to be scanning through KCM/security at 45 prior but the only one that really matters is at the gate 30 prior.

Web265

I do like a research project....
The FOM gives us

All crewmembers will report for duty no later than 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure.

Without giving us a further definition of "report for duty" I was taught that meant being at the gate 45 prior. There is a cutout for deadheads, they are 30 minutes prior and an actual requirement in the FOM to notify crew scheduling if a crewmember is missing at 30 minutes prior.

The contract says...Report Time shall be scheduled for 45 minutes prior to departure time of the first flight of the day at the Pilot’s Base and 30 minutes at field stations.
So to be more specific I think you do have to be at the gate at 45 minutes when you are showing up to start your duty period from off duty at home. 30 minutes at field stations which would be after RONs or sits in other airports, after DHs etc.. I was unaware of this 30 part, but I wouldn't do it. If your one minute late someone could call crew scheduling?


Not sure how you report to KCM that you're there and ready for duty, the wording would indicate to me that this refers to the gate.

I could easily see where there may have been some interpretation via a union action / grievance when there was a question and it was settled as KCM at 45 prior, I've never heard of it though.
I checked the old contract FAQ's and the new one that came out today. Couldn't find anything. I could also see where the KCM scan was used to prove someone was late, so it became a sort of colloquial that if you scan prior to 45 they can say you were late since that's where the only record is created if you make the 30 minute mark.


From a practical standpoint, I guess you're right, if nobody gets contacted till 30 prior, I just never heard this in training or from the union.
​​​​ChronicFatigue can you tell me if this is documented anywhere? I can't find it.

Bricky

KCM records your swipe time and the airline can access it. At least that's what were told at the brickyard and on the line.

45 makes sense when you compare it to the "first flight of the day". That's 15 min to get thru then get to your gate.

30 for the next flights - after your thru KCM - makes sense to.

Bricky

info might be in the contract

Web265

I couldn't find it...

MFJones

Honest what really matters at the end of the day is if the aircraft departs on time for pilots. We don't get occurrences for not being at the aircraft 45 or 30 minutes prior, only if it's late closing he door because one of us were late arriving.

UnbeatenPath

Did you take a serious look at 135? Most of them start 80-100k