Republic Airways as a New Hire
11-27-2012 | 10:12 AM
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Republic Airways as a New Hire
Every week there is a new thread about "how are the schedules", "can I hold ORD", "what certificate will I get because I only want one". Its getting old so here we go, hopefully this will turn out to be the end all to these redundant threads. I'm going to take the time answer all questions whether you are new to the industry or are furloughed or switching jobs.
If you are new to the aviation industry you need to realize that getting the job should be your first priority. No matter what base certificate or airplane you get, you need the job first to start moving on to what you want. This is true for all airlines. You will, one day, hold the base you want in the aircraft you want so just sit back and be patient, but don't turn down a job just because you want a base that is going to be tough to get into.
At Republic we have an outstation base mentality and it sucks. What this means is that if you get Shuttle America you will be based in IND or CMH when you are hired. Why? Because everyone hired before you also wants LGA, ORD and ATL. so when a bid opens to place new hires everyone senior to you bids into those slots and you will be left with what is leftover.
on all certificates the only bases that are not outstation are:
DEN - F9 190 / UA Q400
DCA - US 170
PHL - US 170
ORD - UA 170 / AA 140
LGA - DL 170 / DL 145
All other bases are outstation:
CMH/IND/ATL - Shuttle America 170
CMH/IND/GSO/PIT/MCI - Republic 170/190/Q400
CMH/IND/SDF/CLE - CHQ 140/145
There are two Charter Bases as well that you may be awarded as a new hire you are not immune!!!!
IWD - 190 - currently full
ACY - 190 - Three open FO slots WILL BE AWARDED TO NEW HIRES!
When you are hired you WILL be on reserve how long will you be on reserve for? It depends on the certificate airplane and base. There are pilots hired in '12 that are mid range line holders in CMH and IND at Shuttle America, on the other side there are '08 hires on reserve in ORD, and '07 hires on reserve in DEN.
Republic hired nearly 700 pilots in 2007 and they make up the FO list and now they are all upgrading to the Q400 for this reason traditionally senior bases, ORD and DEN, are now getting relatively junior pilots. There are '12 hires in every base in the system.
The arrival of the Q400 and the placement of more 145s has greatly accelerated the upgrades and movement. So if you are hired now you will more than likely hold the base of your choice within a year and if you stay in an outstation you will probably be a line holder within 6 months. The only exception to that is on the Q400. We opened DEN and MCI first. This caused all new hires to be put in those bases after several vacancy bids and the opening of PIT only 4 people have bid out of MCI and no one has bid out of DEN. This means that those bases are staffed with people that want to be there and there will be no more growth there. What does this mean? Well don't ask for the Q because you want DEN. Because of our awful, outdated contract no FOs could bid the Qs. This means that the #1 Q pilot in all bases is a '12 hire in other words there will be NO movement on the Q until upgrades drop into the 2012 hires. Bottom FOs in DEN and MCI will be on reserve for years! If you want the Q get in now or your life will suck for years!
The bases that are junior now will be stagnate now for a while because the FOs are too junior to upgrade. The bases that are senior now will see alot of movement because the FOs are all upgrading. there has been 300 FOs hired this year so get on now becasuse the longer you wait the longer it will take to get into the base you want.
In the interviews you can pick you certificate NOT YOUR BASE. If you want the 170 and want to commute to a hub go to Republic. There will be lots of movement in PHL and DCA as most of those two bases are '07 hire FOs. If you want to hold a line quick and want the 170 go to Shuttle. If you don't care about your base and want CMH or IND you can hold a line within a few months. If you want the Q and live on the East coast GET IN NOW. we are about half way staffed on the Q and if you get in now you can be a senior line holder until the day you can hold CA, if you wait until we are done staffing you will be on reserve or a crappy line holder for years. If you dont mind flying 8 legs a day and being based at an outstation go to CHQ. However because of the big hiring spree we did for the CRJs in '07 CHQ fos were fairly senior and they are now CAs. CHQ didn't see many new hires for a while so movement within the 50 seater is going to be slow.
Republic life:
shorter legs for the 170 and 190 means more flying in a day. Flights for US stay mostly in the North East usually 4 legs a day 20 hour trips. 190 flying has gone down the tubes and now its 5+ legs per day with 20 hr lines. Q400 8 legs a day but high time trips right now 25hrs + but I imagine that will be temporary. We are extremely short on that acft right now.
Shuttle life:
Best flying in the system, in my oppinion, long stage lengths for UA and DL. Most trips are 2-3 legs per day with 20 hr trips. exception is the DL shuttle lots of flying there. LGA is also infamous for its day trips. Planning has yet to figure out how to work the DL flying into multi day trips. It is a serious problem but one the company does not care about.
CHQ life:
8 legs a day early starts late finishes short overnights.
Good luck. If you want to get in the industry just get a job then worry about where you can/want to be based. It is terrible commuting from a base to another base to go to work but its something we all do for a little while. I commuted for 8 months to an outstation before i got based where I live and I'm going to have to do it all over again as a CA.
If you are new to the aviation industry you need to realize that getting the job should be your first priority. No matter what base certificate or airplane you get, you need the job first to start moving on to what you want. This is true for all airlines. You will, one day, hold the base you want in the aircraft you want so just sit back and be patient, but don't turn down a job just because you want a base that is going to be tough to get into.
At Republic we have an outstation base mentality and it sucks. What this means is that if you get Shuttle America you will be based in IND or CMH when you are hired. Why? Because everyone hired before you also wants LGA, ORD and ATL. so when a bid opens to place new hires everyone senior to you bids into those slots and you will be left with what is leftover.
on all certificates the only bases that are not outstation are:
DEN - F9 190 / UA Q400
DCA - US 170
PHL - US 170
ORD - UA 170 / AA 140
LGA - DL 170 / DL 145
All other bases are outstation:
CMH/IND/ATL - Shuttle America 170
CMH/IND/GSO/PIT/MCI - Republic 170/190/Q400
CMH/IND/SDF/CLE - CHQ 140/145
There are two Charter Bases as well that you may be awarded as a new hire you are not immune!!!!
IWD - 190 - currently full
ACY - 190 - Three open FO slots WILL BE AWARDED TO NEW HIRES!
When you are hired you WILL be on reserve how long will you be on reserve for? It depends on the certificate airplane and base. There are pilots hired in '12 that are mid range line holders in CMH and IND at Shuttle America, on the other side there are '08 hires on reserve in ORD, and '07 hires on reserve in DEN.
Republic hired nearly 700 pilots in 2007 and they make up the FO list and now they are all upgrading to the Q400 for this reason traditionally senior bases, ORD and DEN, are now getting relatively junior pilots. There are '12 hires in every base in the system.
The arrival of the Q400 and the placement of more 145s has greatly accelerated the upgrades and movement. So if you are hired now you will more than likely hold the base of your choice within a year and if you stay in an outstation you will probably be a line holder within 6 months. The only exception to that is on the Q400. We opened DEN and MCI first. This caused all new hires to be put in those bases after several vacancy bids and the opening of PIT only 4 people have bid out of MCI and no one has bid out of DEN. This means that those bases are staffed with people that want to be there and there will be no more growth there. What does this mean? Well don't ask for the Q because you want DEN. Because of our awful, outdated contract no FOs could bid the Qs. This means that the #1 Q pilot in all bases is a '12 hire in other words there will be NO movement on the Q until upgrades drop into the 2012 hires. Bottom FOs in DEN and MCI will be on reserve for years! If you want the Q get in now or your life will suck for years!
The bases that are junior now will be stagnate now for a while because the FOs are too junior to upgrade. The bases that are senior now will see alot of movement because the FOs are all upgrading. there has been 300 FOs hired this year so get on now becasuse the longer you wait the longer it will take to get into the base you want.
In the interviews you can pick you certificate NOT YOUR BASE. If you want the 170 and want to commute to a hub go to Republic. There will be lots of movement in PHL and DCA as most of those two bases are '07 hire FOs. If you want to hold a line quick and want the 170 go to Shuttle. If you don't care about your base and want CMH or IND you can hold a line within a few months. If you want the Q and live on the East coast GET IN NOW. we are about half way staffed on the Q and if you get in now you can be a senior line holder until the day you can hold CA, if you wait until we are done staffing you will be on reserve or a crappy line holder for years. If you dont mind flying 8 legs a day and being based at an outstation go to CHQ. However because of the big hiring spree we did for the CRJs in '07 CHQ fos were fairly senior and they are now CAs. CHQ didn't see many new hires for a while so movement within the 50 seater is going to be slow.
Republic life:
shorter legs for the 170 and 190 means more flying in a day. Flights for US stay mostly in the North East usually 4 legs a day 20 hour trips. 190 flying has gone down the tubes and now its 5+ legs per day with 20 hr lines. Q400 8 legs a day but high time trips right now 25hrs + but I imagine that will be temporary. We are extremely short on that acft right now.
Shuttle life:
Best flying in the system, in my oppinion, long stage lengths for UA and DL. Most trips are 2-3 legs per day with 20 hr trips. exception is the DL shuttle lots of flying there. LGA is also infamous for its day trips. Planning has yet to figure out how to work the DL flying into multi day trips. It is a serious problem but one the company does not care about.
CHQ life:
8 legs a day early starts late finishes short overnights.
Good luck. If you want to get in the industry just get a job then worry about where you can/want to be based. It is terrible commuting from a base to another base to go to work but its something we all do for a little while. I commuted for 8 months to an outstation before i got based where I live and I'm going to have to do it all over again as a CA.
11-27-2012 | 10:27 AM
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Every week there is a new thread about "how are the schedules", "can I hold ORD", "what certificate will I get because I only want one". Its getting old so here we go, hopefully this will turn out to be the end all to these redundant threads. I'm going to take the time answer all questions whether you are new to the industry or are furloughed or switching jobs.
If you are new to the aviation industry you need to realize that getting the job should be your first priority. No matter what base certificate or airplane you get, you need the job first to start moving on to what you want. This is true for all airlines. You will, one day, hold the base you want in the aircraft you want so just sit back and be patient, but don't turn down a job just because you want a base that is going to be tough to get into.
At Republic we have an outstation base mentality and it sucks. What this means is that if you get Shuttle America you will be based in IND or CMH when you are hired. Why? Because everyone hired before you also wants LGA, ORD and ATL. so when a bid opens to place new hires everyone senior to you bids into those slots and you will be left with what is leftover.
on all certificates the only bases that are not outstation are:
DEN - F9 190 / UA Q400
DCA - US 170
PHL - US 170
ORD - UA 170 / AA 140
LGA - DL 170 / DL 145
All other bases are outstation:
CMH/IND/ATL - Shuttle America 170
CMH/IND/GSO/PIT/MCI - Republic 170/190/Q400
CMH/IND/SDF/CLE - CHQ 140/145
There are two Charter Bases as well that you may be awarded as a new hire you are not immune!!!!
IWD - 190 - currently full
ACY - 190 - Three open FO slots WILL BE AWARDED TO NEW HIRES!
When you are hired you WILL be on reserve how long will you be on reserve for? It depends on the certificate airplane and base. There are pilots hired in '12 that are mid range line holders in CMH and IND at Shuttle America, on the other side there are '08 hires on reserve in ORD, and '07 hires on reserve in DEN.
Republic hired nearly 700 pilots in 2007 and they make up the FO list and now they are all upgrading to the Q400 for this reason traditionally senior bases, ORD and DEN, are now getting relatively junior pilots. There are '12 hires in every base in the system.
The arrival of the Q400 and the placement of more 145s has greatly accelerated the upgrades and movement. So if you are hired now you will more than likely hold the base of your choice within a year and if you stay in an outstation you will probably be a line holder within 6 months. The only exception to that is on the Q400. We opened DEN and MCI first. This caused all new hires to be put in those bases after several vacancy bids and the opening of PIT only 4 people have bid out of MCI and no one has bid out of DEN. This means that those bases are staffed with people that want to be there and there will be no more growth there. What does this mean? Well don't ask for the Q because you want DEN. Because of our awful, outdated contract no FOs could bid the Qs. This means that the #1 Q pilot in all bases is a '12 hire in other words there will be NO movement on the Q until upgrades drop into the 2012 hires. Bottom FOs in DEN and MCI will be on reserve for years! If you want the Q get in now or your life will suck for years!
The bases that are junior now will be stagnate now for a while because the FOs are too junior to upgrade. The bases that are senior now will see alot of movement because the FOs are all upgrading. there has been 300 FOs hired this year so get on now becasuse the longer you wait the longer it will take to get into the base you want.
In the interviews you can pick you certificate NOT YOUR BASE. If you want the 170 and want to commute to a hub go to Republic. There will be lots of movement in PHL and DCA as most of those two bases are '07 hire FOs. If you want to hold a line quick and want the 170 go to Shuttle. If you don't care about your base and want CMH or IND you can hold a line within a few months. If you want the Q and live on the East coast GET IN NOW. we are about half way staffed on the Q and if you get in now you can be a senior line holder until the day you can hold CA, if you wait until we are done staffing you will be on reserve or a crappy line holder for years. If you dont mind flying 8 legs a day and being based at an outstation go to CHQ. However because of the big hiring spree we did for the CRJs in '07 CHQ fos were fairly senior and they are now CAs. CHQ didn't see many new hires for a while so movement within the 50 seater is going to be slow.
Republic life:
shorter legs for the 170 and 190 means more flying in a day. Flights for US stay mostly in the North East usually 4 legs a day 20 hour trips. 190 flying has gone down the tubes and now its 5+ legs per day with 20 hr lines. Q400 8 legs a day but high time trips right now 25hrs + but I imagine that will be temporary. We are extremely short on that acft right now.
Shuttle life:
Best flying in the system, in my oppinion, long stage lengths for UA and DL. Most trips are 2-3 legs per day with 20 hr trips. exception is the DL shuttle lots of flying there. LGA is also infamous for its day trips. Planning has yet to figure out how to work the DL flying into multi day trips. It is a serious problem but one the company does not care about.
CHQ life:
8 legs a day early starts late finishes short overnights.
Good luck. If you want to get in the industry just get a job then worry about where you can/want to be based. It is terrible commuting from a base to another base to go to work but its something we all do for a little while. I commuted for 8 months to an outstation before i got based where I live and I'm going to have to do it all over again as a CA.
If you are new to the aviation industry you need to realize that getting the job should be your first priority. No matter what base certificate or airplane you get, you need the job first to start moving on to what you want. This is true for all airlines. You will, one day, hold the base you want in the aircraft you want so just sit back and be patient, but don't turn down a job just because you want a base that is going to be tough to get into.
At Republic we have an outstation base mentality and it sucks. What this means is that if you get Shuttle America you will be based in IND or CMH when you are hired. Why? Because everyone hired before you also wants LGA, ORD and ATL. so when a bid opens to place new hires everyone senior to you bids into those slots and you will be left with what is leftover.
on all certificates the only bases that are not outstation are:
DEN - F9 190 / UA Q400
DCA - US 170
PHL - US 170
ORD - UA 170 / AA 140
LGA - DL 170 / DL 145
All other bases are outstation:
CMH/IND/ATL - Shuttle America 170
CMH/IND/GSO/PIT/MCI - Republic 170/190/Q400
CMH/IND/SDF/CLE - CHQ 140/145
There are two Charter Bases as well that you may be awarded as a new hire you are not immune!!!!
IWD - 190 - currently full
ACY - 190 - Three open FO slots WILL BE AWARDED TO NEW HIRES!
When you are hired you WILL be on reserve how long will you be on reserve for? It depends on the certificate airplane and base. There are pilots hired in '12 that are mid range line holders in CMH and IND at Shuttle America, on the other side there are '08 hires on reserve in ORD, and '07 hires on reserve in DEN.
Republic hired nearly 700 pilots in 2007 and they make up the FO list and now they are all upgrading to the Q400 for this reason traditionally senior bases, ORD and DEN, are now getting relatively junior pilots. There are '12 hires in every base in the system.
The arrival of the Q400 and the placement of more 145s has greatly accelerated the upgrades and movement. So if you are hired now you will more than likely hold the base of your choice within a year and if you stay in an outstation you will probably be a line holder within 6 months. The only exception to that is on the Q400. We opened DEN and MCI first. This caused all new hires to be put in those bases after several vacancy bids and the opening of PIT only 4 people have bid out of MCI and no one has bid out of DEN. This means that those bases are staffed with people that want to be there and there will be no more growth there. What does this mean? Well don't ask for the Q because you want DEN. Because of our awful, outdated contract no FOs could bid the Qs. This means that the #1 Q pilot in all bases is a '12 hire in other words there will be NO movement on the Q until upgrades drop into the 2012 hires. Bottom FOs in DEN and MCI will be on reserve for years! If you want the Q get in now or your life will suck for years!
The bases that are junior now will be stagnate now for a while because the FOs are too junior to upgrade. The bases that are senior now will see alot of movement because the FOs are all upgrading. there has been 300 FOs hired this year so get on now becasuse the longer you wait the longer it will take to get into the base you want.
In the interviews you can pick you certificate NOT YOUR BASE. If you want the 170 and want to commute to a hub go to Republic. There will be lots of movement in PHL and DCA as most of those two bases are '07 hire FOs. If you want to hold a line quick and want the 170 go to Shuttle. If you don't care about your base and want CMH or IND you can hold a line within a few months. If you want the Q and live on the East coast GET IN NOW. we are about half way staffed on the Q and if you get in now you can be a senior line holder until the day you can hold CA, if you wait until we are done staffing you will be on reserve or a crappy line holder for years. If you dont mind flying 8 legs a day and being based at an outstation go to CHQ. However because of the big hiring spree we did for the CRJs in '07 CHQ fos were fairly senior and they are now CAs. CHQ didn't see many new hires for a while so movement within the 50 seater is going to be slow.
Republic life:
shorter legs for the 170 and 190 means more flying in a day. Flights for US stay mostly in the North East usually 4 legs a day 20 hour trips. 190 flying has gone down the tubes and now its 5+ legs per day with 20 hr lines. Q400 8 legs a day but high time trips right now 25hrs + but I imagine that will be temporary. We are extremely short on that acft right now.
Shuttle life:
Best flying in the system, in my oppinion, long stage lengths for UA and DL. Most trips are 2-3 legs per day with 20 hr trips. exception is the DL shuttle lots of flying there. LGA is also infamous for its day trips. Planning has yet to figure out how to work the DL flying into multi day trips. It is a serious problem but one the company does not care about.
CHQ life:
8 legs a day early starts late finishes short overnights.
Good luck. If you want to get in the industry just get a job then worry about where you can/want to be based. It is terrible commuting from a base to another base to go to work but its something we all do for a little while. I commuted for 8 months to an outstation before i got based where I live and I'm going to have to do it all over again as a CA.
JetBlue 190
1 - $49
2 - $64
3 - $75
4 - $81
5 - $85
Repbulic 190/170/145
1 - $23
2 - $31
3 - $36
4 - $37
5 - $37
11-27-2012 | 10:32 AM
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As far as ACY and IWD are concerned there are only 5 FOs in each so if 10 people get there who want it then there wont be any new hires put there. Currently there are only openings in ACY for 3 FOs those FOs are already in training as the flying starts in Jan. However they may bid out on the next bid we don't know yet. But it is something some new hires will have to deal with.
11-27-2012 | 11:00 AM
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CHQ average legs per day I would put around 4. If you are ORD based you can have up to 7 leg days once in awhile.. but more or less a 5 or 6 leg day and then a couple 2 or 3 leg day would be a typical 4 day out of ORD. Not sure where you are getting 8 from. And a lot of the trips have early shows and late finishes but not all. Especially if you are ORD or LGA based it's later shows with early finishes. And you do have long overnights, sometimes over 24 hours because the day before you only flew 2 legs and then your done for the day. Those trips usually don't have very good credit.
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