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American Airlines, Operated by Shuttle America, a Subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings, Doing Business as American Eagle, a member of the One World Alliance.
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I wonder if there is an impact on RAH's contract with US Airways. At some point someone is going to figure out that some airlines are making money by competing with their partners and in the case of RAH it's pretty much everyone... Delta, AA, United, US Airways. Did I miss any? |
Gee, I wonder where all the extra money for the new aircraft came from...
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Originally Posted by RogerDorn
(Post 1337447)
American Airlines, Operated by Shuttle America, a Subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings, Doing Business as American Eagle, a member of the One World Alliance.
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
(Post 1337434)
That's interesting because one would think that the several announcements pre/post BK that they were going to do this and the fact that they gave SKW flying a few months back would make this announcement not only unsurprising but expected.
If your issue is specifically with Republic, I certainly understand. In 2013, the traveling public knows the RJ's are "baby jets" and not the "big airline". So the SKYW thing (in my opinion) is not the same thing as the Republic thing. Disclaimer: did I say this was my opinion ? Thanks |
Originally Posted by Rotor2prop
(Post 1337429)
Speaking of the new program at ATP with RAH. Did anyone see how much ATPs prices went up?
$65k zero-hero $59k Pvt-hero Now thats a huge increase in price and a real rip off for 100hrs multi time!! Do they even offer an ATP certificate? |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1337465)
Do they even offer an ATP certificate?
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Originally Posted by powrful1:1337461
Originally Posted by RogerDorn
(Post 1337447)
American Airlines, Operated by Shuttle America, a Subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings, Doing Business as American Eagle, a member of the One World Alliance.
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So how does this make sense? How can a company such as RAH, who is in negotiations for a new contract (IE, RAH does not know their cost structure with a new contract for pilots) bid and win on new flying? I assume this will probably screw the pilots over big time as RAH is doing the flying at super low rates (based on current pilot pay as its among the lowest) and will be unable to give any raises out, as that would result in unsustainability for the company.
I always heard that "our" company could not bid on new flying while in negotiations because of the massive uncertainty to the companies budget, and therefore without a contract, no new flying. No RAH just runs out and gets flying got 53 airplanes?? *** |
Originally Posted by Red97Vette
(Post 1337485)
So how does this make sense? How can a company such as RAH, who is in negotiations for a new contract (IE, RAH does not know their cost structure with a new contract for pilots) bid and win on new flying? I assume this will probably screw the pilots over big time as RAH is doing the flying at super low rates (based on current pilot pay as its among the lowest) and will be unable to give any raises out, as that would result in unsustainability for the company.
I always heard that "our" company could not bid on new flying while in negotiations because of the massive uncertainty to the companies budget, and therefore without a contract, no new flying. No RAH just runs out and gets flying got 53 airplanes?? *** |
overwhelming positive response at Flyertalk, forum for frequent fliers
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...can-eagle.html Picture of plane http://www.embraer.com/PublishingIma...ses/175_AA.jpg article and comments by AA VP American Airlines to Fly Large Embraer Regional Jets | Frequent Business Traveler Thanks to the agreement, American will offer “more flights at the right intervals throughout the day in key markets,” said Chuck Schubert, American’s vice president of network planning. |
Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
(Post 1337467)
Of course they do. The place started as a quickie pilot mill to get the ATP.
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Originally Posted by powrful1
(Post 1337461)
I thought UA had a no compete clause, so wouldn't this flying have to go to Republic Airlines? I heard from a friend that is the real reason your 190s are leaving Denver. Because, they aren't allowed to compete with the United Q400s. Any idea where the pilots are going to be based?
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Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1337425)
wow, just, wow. I never would have thought that AMR would "trust" another company to fly their flag / carry the brand.
wow. unbelievable. or maybe in today's airline climate, believable. |
Originally Posted by tim123
(Post 1337582)
Hasn't Chautauqua been flying for Am. Eagle already?
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How does this pan out in the process of getting a new contract? Will you go back to talking or are you stuck with what you have indefinitely?
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Originally Posted by RomeoSierra
(Post 1337591)
How does this pan out in the process of getting a new contract? Will you go back to talking or are you stuck with what you have indefinitely?
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1337298)
Well, there's a prime place for Pinnacle and former Comair pilots to go. Congrats to all the longterm FOs there. Get your PIC and get out of this rat race
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looks like Eagle just took a another torpedo to the side. This announcement should really ramp up the hiring spree there.
I think i can already hear the crickets chirping over at centreport. Jeez |
Originally Posted by citation35hf
(Post 1337603)
What? RAH isn't G7 or Great Lakes...
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Disgusting... One kick in the nuts after another.. This job sucks.
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Interesting that xjet (asa) JUST painted a whole bunch of CRJ200's in the old Eagle paint job, ...now RAH is using the new one. I guess ASA just picked up the new slut in an old dress.
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Originally Posted by citation35hf
(Post 1337603)
What? RAH isn't G7 or Great Lakes...
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Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1337463)
the SKYW thing was 50-seats only per jet, my understanding. This new development (at least for me) took me by surprise because it is the larger E-175 and the larger the jet, the closer the resemblance to the larger brand, AA (IE 737, Airbus) becomes. Hence if (again, just me) I was in charge of the planet (and I am not...), I would have kept that at ..."Legacy Eagle" ...(I just invented that term) with folks who for umpteen years have worked in furtherance of the brand, not merely Point A to Point B.
In 2013, the traveling public knows the RJ's are "baby jets" and not the "big airline". So the SKYW thing (in my opinion) is not the same thing as the Republic thing. Disclaimer: did I say this was my opinion ? Thanks |
Originally Posted by WileyTwo
(Post 1337708)
Did Eagle ever get a new name? Someone suggested Bald Eagle.
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So how many Pinnacle guys hitting the street will end up at Republic. Ironic thing is since they just voted in the new industry standard it will make it impossible for Republic to get the raise they have been fighting for.
Nothing like now working with the guys that cut your legs out from under you. Good job Pinnacle. Good job. |
Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound
(Post 1337755)
So how many Pinnacle guys hitting the street will end up at Republic. Ironic thing is since they just voted in the new industry standard it will make it impossible for Republic to get the raise they have been fighting for.
Nothing like now working with the guys that cut your legs out from under you. Good job Pinnacle. Good job. |
Originally Posted by snippercr
(Post 1337763)
How many guys from Eagle are going to end up at Republic?
"Most importantly, there will be no base closures or flight crews furloughed as a result of this agreement. As many of you already know, we are currently hiring, and will continue with our plan to hire 400-500 pilots in 2013." |
Isn't Republic's big plan to take over all the Q flying turning into a big train wreck? How is this gonna turn out?
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Originally Posted by 727flteng
(Post 1337791)
Isn't Republic's big plan to take over all the Q flying turning into a big train wreck? How is this gonna turn out?
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1337766)
Some will likely leave, but we are being "told" that:
"Most importantly, there will be no base closures or flight crews furloughed as a result of this agreement. As many of you already know, we are currently hiring, and will continue with our plan to hire 400-500 pilots in 2013." |
Originally Posted by Karma
(Post 1337793)
You guys are missing the big picture. There isn't much Eagle flying being taken, mostly AA routes.
2012 saw 30 or so props returned, we are returning the 135's already this year. |
How will this effect the bases as Republic? Will they remain the same or will others open or possibly close. What do you think the future of CMH will hold?
Where do you think new hires will be going? |
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 1337458)
Gee, I wonder where all the extra money for the new aircraft came from...
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1337799)
Actually there is, Eagle had 250 jets and 33 T-props flying as of this time last year, by the end of the year we will have 225ish airframes per the current fleet forecast. So 50 to 60 airplanes gone equals flying going away.
2012 saw 30 or so props returned, we are returning the 135's already this year. |
Originally Posted by Red97Vette
(Post 1337635)
Interesting that xjet (asa) JUST painted a whole bunch of CRJ200's in the old Eagle paint job, ...now RAH is using the new one. I guess ASA just picked up the new slut in an old dress.
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Originally Posted by Karma
(Post 1337828)
Oh alright, I wasn't aware. Well then, my sympathy goes out to the Eagle pilots except for the ones that were picking up OT when there were guys out on the street.
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Enjoy the next few years of a crap contract bringing the industry down rah. Tip of the ol hat brickyard.
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1337766)
Some will likely leave, but we are being "told" that:
"Most importantly, there will be no base closures or flight crews furloughed as a result of this agreement. As many of you already know, we are currently hiring, and will continue with our plan to hire 400-500 pilots in 2013." |
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