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Pilot7 01-26-2013 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by SongMan (Post 1339242)
Any reason to choose Republic over Eagle for the new hire?

Eagle is a much better place to work.

Ultralight 01-26-2013 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by SongMan (Post 1339242)
Any reason to choose Republic over Eagle for the new hire?

A picture of you on the flight deck of an E175 will look much cooler than an ERJ 135 on your myspace page! :D

ChipChelios 01-26-2013 07:08 AM

I would be thoroughly entertained to witness the day that Regional Airlines play tug of war over a small pool of candidates.

Ask not what I could do for you Mr Recruiter, but what could you do for me?

fullflank 01-26-2013 07:12 AM

How can republic offer conditional employment to atp students. Is the 1500 hour requirement being waived for them? Is atp being considered an aviation university now? Wouldnt surprise me.

feltf4 01-26-2013 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by ChipChelios (Post 1339266)
I would be thoroughly entertained to witness the day that Regional Airlines play tug of war over a small pool of candidates.

Ask not what I could do for you Mr Recruiter, but what could you do for me?

Serious question. If there is such a small pool of candidates right now. Why would eagle or another airline decline people of getting hired? I really don't think that there is a small pool.

emb145 01-26-2013 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1339267)
How can republic offer conditional employment to atp students. Is the 1500 hour requirement being waived for them? Is atp being considered an aviation university now? Wouldnt surprise me.

The candidates graduate from ATP and instruct with them until reaching the 1500 hours at which time they "flow thru" to Republic. At least that's my vague understanding of what I read.

ChipChelios 01-26-2013 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 1339268)
Serious question. If there is such a small pool of candidates right now. Why would eagle or another airline decline people of getting hired? I really don't think that there is a small pool.

The pool of candidates is not small...YET

Not to mention these airlines have to have standards. They would waste tons of cash trying to train people who can't make it through training.

ChipChelios 01-26-2013 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1339267)
How can republic offer conditional employment to atp students. Is the 1500 hour requirement being waived for them? Is atp being considered an aviation university now? Wouldnt surprise me.

Having 1500 hours is one of the conditions of the conditional offer

kls81 01-26-2013 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by AirbornPegasus (Post 1339219)
I think the number is much higher than 500, but it is probably spread out over 18 to 24 months. Their attrition is picking up with guys going to Spirit, Airways, Emirates, etc. Any Tier III FO that can leave is leaving, as well as most of the bottom 400 or so Captains. The FO's over there have had a belly full of BB, their union, and the top 300 - 500 lifer Captains. I don't think there is a single FO on their Negotiation Committee and they are fed up with the entire lot. With or without PIC time, if they can get out they will.

When the real hiring at the majors, Fedex, UPS, etc. picks up in summer or early fall that hew hire number will grow to 750 for this year and probably an equal number or greater next year. Don't forget they are not yet completely staffed for the Q's. Also, remember they need new hire FO's in place to begin the upgrade process for the Tier III guys.

In 2007 they hired nearly a 1,000. They can do it from a process standpoint. From a recruitment standpoint, that is a whole different consideration.

If they do not get this contract behind them, there is going to be a lot of really nasty smelling stuff coming the fan when planes are sitting waiting on pilots. Is there a pilot shortage? Not yet, because of the Pinnacle and Comair guys. But there will be at RAH within a year and potentially by fall.

My advice to anyone even thinking about going to RAH is get in NOW! Ask any of the guys who got hired from Sept 07 to March 08 over there how getting hired on the back end of a hiring wave at RAH works out.

I was hired by express jet in November of 2007, the last class to go through before things took a crap. I believe they were hiring 60-80 a month prior. From the time I started training to the time it ended they were already canceling classes. I ended up leaving to go back to my old job. My whole class was furloughed along with many others? I'm hoping I can get in during the beginning this time.

RogerDorn 01-26-2013 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1339218)
3 airplanes per month, with about 6-8 pilots per plane. So 18-24 pilots per month. Not bad. However if retirements and attrition pick up then it is stretching your training department. Which consists of mostly senior pilots, that may be looking to bail to the majors. So Republic will need to hire replacement instructors, and expand their current department to staff their new hires.

Republic will be fine, until the number of CFI's stuck behind "The Curve" of 1500 hours depletes. For every CFI that is stuck behind the growing curve to get to 1500 hours, that is another commercial student that is slowly building hours, or waiting for a call on a gig. There is no rough deadline by the FAA with the HR5900 reduction, and majors picking up on retirements. I will estimate that around September next year is going to be rough on Republic, unless they approve a new contract. Which is unlikely, the way management is acting.

I don't see why people give their life to work for terrible management and work rules. When every airline is on the same hiring hour requirements, we shall see who will actually still stand.

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Valid points. But RAH doesn't have any instructors. We farm out all the training to Flight Safety. It keeps costs down and we dont have to worry about senior instructors leaving. I small step in the race to the bottom.


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