Aviatrx

That is nose wheel steering disconnect. They still had diff braking to steer. I would bet they landed with the yaw damper on. The angle of the plane was pretty straight and they appeared to be short of A1. Who knows, but its fun to speculate. I am happy nobody got hurt. It does suck to explain to all your friends and family that it wasn't really an American Eagle airplane as most of the traveling public is unaware that Eagle too is farming out there own flying.

sqwkvfr

From that statement it's pretty clear that you don't know anything about the E jets and I'd recommend that you suspend your "speculation fun" before you make yourself look even more foolish.

Never, ever forget that tomorrow, next week or next year, it could very well be you about which people are saying it is "fun to speculate."

Emb170man

Never flown the 170 I take it? I'll bet you my house against yours it was the YD.

SkylineAviation

Who cares if it was Republic, or Eagle, or XYZ. The public has no idea it was republic, or eagle, or AA to begin with. They bought a ticket and it said American Airlines...maybe in small letters it stated "operated by ..." but other than that most assume it's American. So all this talk about, this incident hurting the reputation of American Eagle Airlines is absolutely ridiculous.

And would someone please tell me any airline that is above being able to get into an accident/incident/violation. Any regional,major, or cargo operator could have the same problem or worse on any given day...it's happened in the past and will surely happen in the future. Just go look at the NTSB and FAA records for Eagle, AA, UAL, LUV, TWA, PanAm, Republic, JBLU, etc... NO Airline is above and beyond, don't act like your airline is special.

If anyone is so inclined I would recommend studying the subject of SMS and start with reading the book "Aviation Safety Programs, A Management Handbook" to just to begin understanding the subject of risk management in aviation.

MrMustache

Hmmmm And what happens when the tiller is pressed down again? I find it hard to believe the Capt wasn't all over that thing...

NC3rd

You better proofread before you bet your house.

What

Are you speaking of management operating in the grey area between an accident and safety? How airlines operate on the great area and everyday push it as far away from safety as possible as the safer side cost money.

SkylineAviation

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. But the book I mentioned does not only apply to management as part of the title might imply. It gives a great account of the actual implementation of safety (SMS) along with explaining associated costs and other variables of SMS.

To say that an airline (or any business) intentionally errors on the side of pushing "it [safety] as far away from safety as possible" is inaccurate. Sure there is a cost to safety but the costs of NOT implementing safety measures (an entire SMS, as outlined by ICAO and the FAA) can potentially far outweigh any cost implementations.

The point is that EVERY airline has safety measures in place. That is to say a SMS program to one degree or another. ICAO has mandated it and the FAA has/is implementing it. There is no choice in the matter and as part of a SMS program the officer in charge must proactively mitigate ALL risks and identify current and future risk relating to all aspects of the operation, not just flight. Surely this costs money, but is a necessary obligation of any 121 carrier...but over time, the costs of NOT implementing will most likely exceed those of implementing.

Feel free to send me a PM regarding SMS if you want so that I don't continue to get off subject and bore people on this thread.

FL400

What else do you expect,,, just another day at Republic,, and yes we all know they're doing a ****ty job.
And they call themselves airline pilots?? Ha! LOL

SpeedyVagabond

Lol. So speaks the Eagle F.O. who claims he works for a "major U.S. airline." Man some of you guys are brainwashed down there in Texas with some powerful suds. Quit taking yourself so seriously and do a little research on some of the accidents your "major U.S. airline" has been involved in in the past. A little humility and compassion would serve you well. It remains to be seen if pilot error contributed to this excursion. And if it did spend time putting yourself in your brother aviator's shoes and learn from their unfortunate mishap instead of rushing to put them down for a mistake you could just as easily make. I hope you didn't let the interviewers at your Spirit interview see your toolish side.