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idlethrust 06-14-2014 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 1664823)
If you had to choose between Republic, Envoy, or Express Jet which poison would you choose? :confused:

If you choose any one of those you're f&*$!d!!! Big time.Better do your homework. Psa or gojet would be a better option or maybe Mesa .

FaceBiter 06-14-2014 07:46 PM

PSA, GOjet or Mesa. Top tier.

idlethrust 06-14-2014 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1664904)
PSA, GOjet or Mesa. Top tier.

Definitely not top tier , esp.Mesa and their subpar contract and wages. However , as it stands right now , they are a better option than the three the op originally asked about for alot of reasons. Republic or gojet dosent have cancelation pay , and with all those northeast bases and the winter months fast approaching, it could spell commuting to work and sitting without pay for some folks real soon.Now that sucks.

CFIGUY22 06-15-2014 07:50 AM

Republic or Envoy?
 
If say republic if you had to choose between the 3.

Salukipilot4590 06-15-2014 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 1664935)
Definitely not top tier , esp.Mesa and their subpar contract and wages. However , as it stands right now , they are a better option than the three the op originally asked about for alot of reasons. Republic or gojet dosent have cancelation pay , and with all those northeast bases and the winter months fast approaching, it could spell commuting to work and sitting without pay for some folks real soon.Now that sucks.

I think he was being sarcastic

Ultralight 06-15-2014 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 1664935)
Republic or gojet dosent have cancelation pay , and with all those northeast bases and the winter months fast approaching, it could spell commuting to work and sitting without pay for some folks real soon.Now that sucks.

This is a good point, especially if you end up on the Q400. Great aircraft when it works, but it is in general unreliable

I can't believe the union would allow the practice of no cancelation pay. It encourages pilots to fly broken aircraft and causes friction in the cockpit. One pilot may want to write up a discrepancy where the other guy will argue against it in fear of the flight canceling, then only being able to afford the cheap noodles!

For that reason alone I would forget Republic and GoJet.

sqwkvfr 06-15-2014 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 (Post 1665069)
If say republic if you had to choose between the 3.

Seriously? Why?

The work rules, schedules, pay, and support departments at Envoy are head and shoulders above anything RJET will ever be. The 145s and the 190 are going away, and management acts as if the pilot contract doesn't even exist.

...and this is a special paragraph to highlight the biggest detriment to working at RJET: There is NO OUTSTATION BASING at Envoy.

Plan on being an FO for a while at either place. There are a LOT of lifers at RJET, so trying to time an upgrade might be pretty hard...you might as well have a decent quality of life at Envoy as opposed to being treated like a baby treats a diaper at RJET.

SpeedyVagabond 06-15-2014 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1665101)

I can't believe the union would allow the practice of no cancelation pay.

The union has nothing to do with it. It's a contractual practice approved by the votes of pilots who were here before many of us. I suspect we'll be voting on another TA shortly which will definitely fix this oversight. It's a roll of the dice when it comes to picking a good airline. Good luck with your choice, OP.

PilotJ3 06-15-2014 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by sqwkvfr (Post 1665150)
Seriously? Why?

The work rules, schedules, pay, and support departments at Envoy are head and shoulders above anything RJET will ever be. The 145s and the 190 are going away, and management acts as if the pilot contract doesn't even exist.

...and this is a special paragraph to highlight the biggest detriment to working at RJET: There is NO OUTSTATION BASING at Envoy.

Plan on being an FO for a while at either place. There are a LOT of lifers at RJET, so trying to time an upgrade might be pretty hard...you might as well have a decent quality of life at Envoy as opposed to being treated like a baby treats a diaper at RJET.

Also second year pay at envoy is almost the same as top pay for RAH after 7years.

Next year we should get a pay raise (I expect around 3%), per diem increase to $1.90 and will continue for $0.05 every year). Also we have an amendment round in 2016, so I expect also more improvements.

Future is uncertain, but still a better contract than RAH.

CFIGUY22 06-15-2014 05:54 PM

Just my opinion, yea no cancel pay and envoy has the better contract, but you will end up making more than an envoy guy most likely with how much you fly and you won't be on reserve nearly as long. Pretty sure they are hiring mostly on the 170's so I wouldn't take the q if it was offered. Also envoy has hot reserve republic does not. And lol I believe envoy has the most lifers out of all regionals. Envoy is a very uncertain place to be right now.


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