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Old 09-01-2015, 08:59 PM
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How awesome is it that the head of the IBT is named James Hoffa? I thought this was a joke for the longest time until I found out that is actually his name. The head of a Union named James Hoffa.

Please tell me his friends call him Jimmy.
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It's Jimmy Hoffa's kid. Teamsters is kinda the family biz.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:41 AM
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I disagree. Flew with so many lifers who weren't planning on going anywhere. It's gonna come back around to bite them in the arse. A 10 year CA pay cap needs to happen (not including COL yearly increases) in order for 3-8 year CAs to be paid appropriately. This is a regional, not a home for life.
This line of thinking is the problem. A regional pilot shouldn't have to move on just to get paid a livable wage. We operate $50mil airplanes loaded with mainline pax into and out of major hubs. Why can't this be a "home for life"? If people want to move on to a major and go that route fine...but with a place like RAH that is so successful, they can certainly invest some money to make this a company to retire at for those who so desire.

Stop undervaluing yourself. Sac up and get the pay you deserve.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname View Post
This line of thinking is the problem. A regional pilot shouldn't have to move on just to get paid a livable wage. We operate $50mil airplanes loaded with mainline pax into and out of major hubs. Why can't this be a "home for life"? If people want to move on to a major and go that route fine...but with a place like RAH that is so successful, they can certainly invest some money to make this a company to retire at for those who so desire.

Stop undervaluing yourself. Sac up and get the pay you deserve.
That might be the idea for some people, but you understand that if regional pay scales go up to mainline levels, regionals will disappear quicker as there will be no need for them. I think this idea is better than the one where you keep voting for poverty pay and expanding regionals while people struggle to get a mainline job.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:49 AM
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That might be the idea for some people, but you understand that if regional pay scales go up to mainline levels, regionals will disappear quicker as there will be no need for them. I think this idea is better than the one where you keep voting for poverty pay and expanding regionals while people struggle to get a mainline job.
Exactly. If it's too expensive mainline will be forced to absorb the flying, or cut their routes. And while posting billion dollar profits it would be difficult to explain a cut to investors.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname View Post
This line of thinking is the problem. A regional pilot shouldn't have to move on just to get paid a livable wage. We operate $50mil airplanes loaded with mainline pax into and out of major hubs. Why can't this be a "home for life"? If people want to move on to a major and go that route fine...but with a place like RAH that is so successful, they can certainly invest some money to make this a company to retire at for those who so desire.

Stop undervaluing yourself. Sac up and get the pay you deserve.
No, your line of thinking is the problem. Lifers are the problem. If you're one of them, then I can see why you think that.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname View Post
This line of thinking is the problem. A regional pilot shouldn't have to move on just to get paid a livable wage. We operate $50mil airplanes loaded with mainline pax into and out of major hubs. Why can't this be a "home for life"? If people want to move on to a major and go that route fine...but with a place like RAH that is so successful, they can certainly invest some money to make this a company to retire at for those who so desire.

Stop undervaluing yourself. Sac up and get the pay you deserve.
He's saying you don't need 21 years of steps. Years 11-21 should be 1-10, but who along with the company who else wouldn't like that? The sub lifers have to fight the company and the union to get a raise.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy View Post
No, your line of thinking is the problem. Lifers are the problem. If you're one of them, then I can see why you think that.
Spoken like a truly self-centered, narcissistic, entitled brat. Maybe one day you'll understand, junior. But I won't hold my breath.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy View Post
No, your line of thinking is the problem. Lifers are the problem. If you're one of them, then I can see why you think that.
People's career plans are none of your business. Your job should be to assist in the demise of regional airlines. If "lifers" are affected by that, again its none of your business what their career plans are.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy View Post
No, your line of thinking is the problem. Lifers are the problem. If you're one of them, then I can see why you think that.
It's difficult to balance the needs and expectations of the various demographics within a pilot group. At least the "lifers" have a vested interest in a company succeeding while the "stepping stoners" tend to just want to get out of a company what they feel they need to move on. One thing they often fail to recognize though is, the cheaper regional pilots are, the less incentive mainline managers have to move jobs back to mainline. That is something that hurts everyone.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy View Post
No, your line of thinking is the problem. Lifers are the problem. If you're one of them, then I can see why you think that.
The better the pay is at the regional the harder the mainline will have to work to entice them away. If you aren't following, I mean mainline will have to up their pay and benefits. Win-win. What you are condoning will degrade the package for everyone.

I honestly don't understand why people don't get that.
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