The MU-2 has no ailerons; only spoilers. If you start flirting with a stall, spoilers provide little or no roll control.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2367365)
Care to elaborate? I always wondered why that thing had such a reputation.
An engine failure at/after V1 is different than any other light twin/turboprop. Rudder for yaw, but don't roll into the good engine, because those spoilers will only kill lift and create drag. Don't retract the gear, because there are two gear doors that open forward, presenting several square feet of drag to the wind. Retraction takes about 18 to 20 seconds and reduces rate of climb by about 500 fpm. So, you verifying feathering of the dead engine and just keep the nose straight. Once you've got some altitude you can accelerate and start cleaning up. Flown properly, it does just fine. Lots of MU-2s ended up in the hands of individuals and (freight) companies that tried to operate them on the cheap and/or with poorly trained and inexperienced pilots. Those are the airplane that you read about and that produced the bad reputation. |
About 6-8 years ago an MU-2 went for about $250,000 while a Cirrus 22 went for $400k+ and a Baron G1000 was a cool $Mil.
So you're talking turboprop performance for less then SE piston prices. This attracted a certain type of private owners that were heading for a smoking hole in the ground. I've never flown an MU2 but I've been told the airplane was intended for career pilots and not Private pilots, same as the Piper AeroStar. |
Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
(Post 2367394)
The MU-2 has no ailerons; only spoilers. If you start flirting with a stall, spoilers provide little or no roll control.
It has ailerons, but they are called trim ailerons. They're located on the trailing edge of the flaps, they're very effective, and are operated by rotating a knob left or right. If you experience an engine failure I think the drill is pitch to 10 degrees, hold the roll trim in the desired direction for a 3 count and roll the rudder trim 5 times. It's the only plane I've ever flown that I needed to reduce power on a single engine go around to get it under control. If I recall, about 80% trq, get it trimmed and then get more trq if needed. I'm not a high time Mits pilot, but I can see that if it's flown like a King Air, in the right configuration, you'd probably have a topic in your honor right here on APC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
There seems to be a reluctance to identify the second pilot by both the company involved and the NTSB. Ten days after the crash, his/her name still hasn't been released. More than a couple media sites are questioning why.
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Originally Posted by HB Pilot
(Post 2369660)
There seems to be a reluctance to identify the second pilot by both the company involved and the NTSB. Ten days after the crash, his/her name still hasn't been released. More than a couple media sites are questioning why.
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Originally Posted by Boris Badenov
(Post 2366913)
Hogwash. There's no "overbanking tendency" in a Mitsi. Also, if you're landing with the tips full, you're doing it wrong.
Just for the record, if you're fully fueled and immediately return because of smoke, you're landing tips full. As you know, that's on the main tank and you're not transferring then. Say, in downtown Detroit, at 3am, in January, with 1200 pounds of Federal Reserve checks. Or something similar. That's not doing it wrong. Blanket statements may not apply. Your mileage may vary. |
I always liked the Mitzi never had a chance to fly one, I've done that circle at TEB a bunch on windy days, lots of turbulence, God rest those Lear pilots, a very sad situation.
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Reports out, not looking good
https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/60000-60499/60373/611460.pdf |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 2528876)
I didnt see a cause? |
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