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Old 01-30-2021, 08:50 AM   #1  
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN29Z06R

When they screw up, they go big. Here's the video of the "landing"... vertical rate is obviously way too high, especially once you consider how big that thing is and the scale you're looking at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qraeGw0kn7o

Actually I approve of Musk's philosophy... he's not afraid of, and in fact expects, fireworks during development. Ultimately an aggressive approach gets you there faster than the risk-averse, bureaucrat-driven approach of NASA (and probably some big primes).
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When they screw up, they go big. Here's the video of the "landing"... vertical rate is obviously way too high, especially once you consider how big that thing is and the scale you're looking at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qraeGw0kn7o

Actually I approve of Musk's philosophy... he's not afraid of, and in fact expects, fireworks during development. Ultimately an aggressive approach gets you there faster than the risk-averse, bureaucrat-driven approach of NASA (and probably some big primes).
Let's see if they mimic that strategy when lives are at stake.
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I hope they filled out the NASA ASRS
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Hoping SN9 & SN10 get launched soon, it appears yesterday's launch was scrubbed due in part to the FAA not granting approval. SN8 wasn't expected to make a successful landing so not sure why the FAA is putting up a fuss, space isn't easy and they aren't the first to blow up rockets.

The Verge article is light on detail, wonder what the exact issue the FAA has with the Boca Chica operation? SpaceX or any company obviously can't willy-nilly launch crap into the air, but the streamlined launch approval process needs to be finalized. It was given approval last year but still not in effect. Get it together feds.
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Let's see if they mimic that strategy when lives are at stake.
Obviously they can't do that. Their "risky" approach is used during development, to get from clean-sheet to certifiable product.

The established, slower, more expensive organizations are terrified of the optics of ANY sort of failure involving flight or even a fueled vehicle on the ground. Musk just doesn't care about that, and it seems to be working for him.
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If I remember correctly I think the landing was not really what they were trying to test in that instance. Specifically I think they were trying to test another aspect of the project and as such Elon mentioned he didn't really care that much that it exploded on landing because they had already gotten the data they needed from it. Of course he could have been saying that to save face too heh
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If I remember correctly I think the landing was not really what they were trying to test in that instance. Specifically I think they were trying to test another aspect of the project and as such Elon mentioned he didn't really care that much that it exploded on landing because they had already gotten the data they needed from it. Of course he could have been saying that to save face too heh
Yes, his approach to landing, recovering and re-using vehicles has been to consider them expendable and the try to recover them...if that works, bonus. Lot of failures early on but they learned and now I think they can price the Falcon 9 based on recovery.
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Launch is on for today.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN2A2274?il=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHq...ASASpaceflight
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Good watch. More valuable data acquired. The hard way.
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Good watch. More valuable data acquired. The hard way.
Yeah the wife and I were cheering it on, bummed the second engine didn't light off properly it seems. Feel like SN10 will stick the landing.
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