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N152SY 12-31-2022 04:13 PM

KMGM accident 12/31
 
https://www.wsfa.com/2023/01/01/montgomery-airport-worker-killed-industrial-accident/

N264NN involved.

FlyyGuyy 12-31-2022 05:46 PM

It's a dangerous place on the ramp. Be safe out there. Saddened to hear about this tragedy.

ENH017 12-31-2022 08:55 PM

https://i.ibb.co/VC0jrvB/IMG-20221231-WA0001.jpg

pangolin 12-31-2022 09:35 PM

Heartbreaking.

I was inverted 12-31-2022 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 3563180)

Is keeping the #2 engine running while waiting for ground power normal?

WHACKMASTER 12-31-2022 10:18 PM

Damn it. Another one? Why does this keep happening? Makes me sick.

rickair7777 12-31-2022 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3563194)
Is keeping the #2 engine running while waiting for ground power normal?

If the APU is inop, you need to keep one of them running until ground power is hooked up. Which one depends on the aircraft.

That's why the beacon stays on, and you advise ops that you don't have an APU.

pangolin 12-31-2022 11:03 PM

I know it’s one on the crj. I don’t know about the 175. Several mistakes had to be made for someone to die. I feel for all involved.

I was inverted 01-01-2023 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3563199)
If the APU is inop, you need to keep one of them running until ground power is hooked up. Which one depends on the aircraft.

That's why the beacon stays on, and you advise ops that you don't have an APU.

Well, yeah. But if you read the thing I quoted it said “before the shutdown of engines” not “engine” and the dude got sucked into the #2. Never flown the 175, but on the 190 with the APU inop, the norm is to shut down #2 (the side where the baggage doors are) and keep #1 on until power is established. The #1 is the same side as the GPU receptacle and opposite side of the baggage door, and there isn’t much reason to keep #2 up, at least on the 190. Was hoping an envoy 175 guy would chime in for clarification on the quoted text for their specifics because as a former 190 guy #2 probably wouldn’t have been running from my experience. Not throwing stones, more just curious about that quoted text and norms on the plane outside of what I know.

FlyyGuyy 01-01-2023 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3563211)
Well, yeah. But if you read the thing I quoted it said “before the shutdown of engines” not “engine” and the dude got sucked into the #2. Never flown the 175, but on the 190 with the APU inop, the norm is to shut down #2 (the side where the baggage doors are) and keep #1 on until power is established. The #1 is the same side as the GPU receptacle and opposite side of the baggage door, and there isn’t much reason to keep #2 up, at least on the 190. Was hoping an envoy 175 guy would chime in for clarification on the quoted text for their specifics because as a former 190 guy #2 probably wouldn’t have been running from my experience. Not throwing stones, more just curious about that quoted text and norms on the plane outside of what I know.

Perhaps still waiting for cool down? I agree though, even on the bus we shut 2 down first typically.

About a month ago we pulled in, and before the captain could shut it down, the rampers were already opening the doors. .... At DFW. Both cargo doors open with number 2 still going.


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