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Old 02-25-2023, 10:02 AM
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Hiring straight out of high school...hmm, what about FARs, age 23, something, something...eh, nah. It's on the "news" must be right. Sweet Jesus.
RATP. Not far off.
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Wouldn’t that be straight out of college then?
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Wouldn’t that be straight out of college then?
21 minimum age. No college necessary. It’s happening.
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21 minimum age. No college necessary. It’s happening.
His point being 21 being the typical age one would graduate college, not high school......

Sorry but this segment was just as much BS as the Forbes article about the AA 777 incident in JFK.
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His point being 21 being the typical age one would graduate college, not high school......

Sorry but this segment was just as much BS as the Forbes article about the AA 777 incident in JFK.
Oh I agree it’s BS.
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And to get the RATP at 1000 or 1250 hours you have to complete a college aviation program. Guess you missed that part.
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And to get the RATP at 1000 or 1250 hours you have to complete a college aviation program. Guess you missed that part.
You can get an RATP without college. You could have 1500 be 21 and/or short of XC time.
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You can get an RATP without college. You could have 1500 be 21 and/or short of XC time.
Correct.

The mil / BS / AS total time provisions are separate from (but entirely interchangeable) with the age 21 and 200 XC provisions.

Example: Mike "Tequila" Sunrise got a PPL in HS, flew his Dad's Cessna a lot, got some junior college credit (partly concurrently with HS), joined the Army Guard as a warrant helo pilot at age 19, finished training and released to traditional reserve status at age 21.

Assuming he meets the other provisions of 61.159, he can get a regional airline job and R-ATP with:
750 Hours TT
200 hours XC
Age 21

He needed the college to get hired by the AG, but does not need any college credit or degree to take advantage of the mil, age 21, or R-ATP XC provisions. He could use all, any, or just one of those provisions as needed.
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And by the time you get to 21 years of age you’re a few years out of high school. The FAA says there are about 166,000 ATPs. It would be interesting to see how many are restricted.
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There may be 166,000 ATP's, but the 121 carrier where I work is hiring them at minimal experience levels.
!800 hours could get you into the right seat of a widebody as an RO on long haul flights.
5 or 10 years ago, it would have gotten you a TBNT letter.
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