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Old 06-19-2023, 12:51 PM
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I can't imagine this will end well.

https://edition.cnn.com/americas/liv...-23/index.html
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I'm pretty sure this will turn out okay. Alec Baldwin is probably on board right now shooting a cook, and once he gets that out of the way and they have a moment of silence for the Jurassic Park guy, Some russian with a scottish accent will put the boat in a river and talk about Montana.

They'd have never gone underwater unless it were perfectly safe. It's just a pond, after all.
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I can't imagine this will end well.

https://edition.cnn.com/americas/liv...-23/index.html
I'm doubtful but there is a chance they've just lost comms and are bobbing around on the surface. That Sub is the size of a minivan so won't be easy to spot. They still have a couple of days of oxygen.
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I'm doubtful but there is a chance they've just lost comms and are bobbing around on the surface. That Sub is the size of a minivan so won't be easy to spot. They still have a couple of days of oxygen.

Hypothetically. I know nothing about this particular system but I do know for sure that such a submersible must have a surface support vessel, and would have negligible ability to travel horizontal distances... it's basically an elevator with the ability to move laterally only very slowly and probably only a few hundred meters.

So if it popped to the surface unexpectedly, it's support ship should have been able to see and recover it. That's why the ship is there to begin with. They don't do this sort of op in bad weather. And they'd have backup comms, if nothing else a SATPHONE.

The thing is unfortunately still at the bottom.
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That Sub is the size of a minivan so won't be easy to spot.
You've obviously not been to a little league game.

Let's not forget the secret weapon, though. One ping.
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I would think there'd be an equivalent of an ELT but it things happened quickly, who knows.
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I would think there'd be an equivalent of an ELT but it things happened quickly, who knows.

Kind of doubt it, the sub seems very experimental to me.

Also, pretty sure they know where it is, it can't really go anywhere.

I doubt there are any currents at the bottom, but if it acquired enough buoyancy to rise in the water column it might have caught currents and drifted.
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Ouch... this is not a good look:

https://www.tiktok.com/@sarah89uk/vi...65425133931803
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There is one thing about using standard parts. It is all together different doing what seems to be jury rigged.
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This vlogger has relevant background, and has dug up some interesting info. This makes all the alarm bells go off to any experienced submariner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dka29FSZac


CEO: "I hire brand new engineering grads. Not experienced ex-Navy submariners, like all other civilian submarine businesses. I don't want a bunch of 50 year old white guys around, they're not inspirational and waste too much money on safety"

If I had heard that quote a couple years ago, I could have told you exactly how this was going to play out. In aviation we use about an 8psi differential pressure in our hulls and we still manage catastrophic failures occasionally. At Titanic depths they are dealing with nearly 6,000 psi, all of which has to be kept out of the people tank.

Elon Musk hires very experienced people from industry, including ex-nasa astronauts. He managed to dispense with red tape while still retaining the people who actually know what they're doing.
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