FFDO F/O threatens to shoot CA
10-31-2023, 03:56 PM
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FFDO F/O threatens to shoot CA
Awesome. The most useless program for "safety" strikes again. For anyone keeping record, the FFDO program so far has put one bullet hole through the side of an A320 flight deck window, conducted a couple of completely illegal traffic stops and detainment of civilians at gun point, and now threatening a fellow pilot over a potential diversion for a medical emergency.
Zero dead terrorists so far.
I own multiple guns, have a California conceal carry permit, so I'm not some anti-gun nutjob. But I would have zero problems with this program going away.
https://www.ourmidland.com/business/...qCHk-Ol4sxYTp4
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot...tain-diverted/
Zero dead terrorists so far.
I own multiple guns, have a California conceal carry permit, so I'm not some anti-gun nutjob. But I would have zero problems with this program going away.
https://www.ourmidland.com/business/...qCHk-Ol4sxYTp4
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot...tain-diverted/
10-31-2023, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Awesome. The most useless program for "safety" strikes again. For anyone keeping record, the FFDO program so far has put one bullet hole through the side of an A320 flight deck window, conducted a couple of completely illegal traffic stops and detainment of civilians at gun point, and now threatening a fellow pilot over a potential diversion for a medical emergency.
Zero dead terrorists so far.
I own multiple guns, have a California conceal carry permit, so I'm not some anti-gun nutjob. But I would have zero problems with this program going away.
https://www.ourmidland.com/business/...qCHk-Ol4sxYTp4
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot...tain-diverted/
Zero dead terrorists so far.
I own multiple guns, have a California conceal carry permit, so I'm not some anti-gun nutjob. But I would have zero problems with this program going away.
https://www.ourmidland.com/business/...qCHk-Ol4sxYTp4
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot...tain-diverted/
Maybe the captain had worn shorts and a ball cap on their European overnight?
10-31-2023, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Awesome. The most useless program for "safety" strikes again. For anyone keeping record, the FFDO program so far has put one bullet hole through the side of an A320 flight deck window, conducted a couple of completely illegal traffic stops and detainment of civilians at gun point, and now threatening a fellow pilot over a potential diversion for a medical emergency.
Zero dead terrorists so far.
I own multiple guns, have a California conceal carry permit, so I'm not some anti-gun nutjob. But I would have zero problems with this program going away.
https://www.ourmidland.com/business/...qCHk-Ol4sxYTp4
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot...tain-diverted/
Zero dead terrorists so far.
I own multiple guns, have a California conceal carry permit, so I'm not some anti-gun nutjob. But I would have zero problems with this program going away.
https://www.ourmidland.com/business/...qCHk-Ol4sxYTp4
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot...tain-diverted/
10-31-2023, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
You clearly also don’t understand the value of deterrence. And you point to a handful of instances in over two decades of the FFDO program as proof that it hasn’t prevented a hijacking? How can you possibly know that? Maybe…just maybe, the very real threat of an armed pilot has entirely prevented another attempted hijacking of an airliner. Every time you bang at that keyboard leaves me to wonder how you can even tie your shoes in the morning.
10-31-2023, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
You clearly also don’t understand the value of deterrence. And you point to a handful of instances in over two decades of the FFDO program as proof that it hasn’t prevented a hijacking? How can you possibly know that? Maybe…just maybe, the very real threat of an armed pilot has entirely prevented another attempted hijacking of an airliner. Every time you bang at that keyboard leaves me to wonder how you can even tie your shoes in the morning.
10-31-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
You clearly also don’t understand the value of deterrence. And you point to a handful of instances in over two decades of the FFDO program as proof that it hasn’t prevented a hijacking? How can you possibly know that? Maybe…just maybe, the very real threat of an armed pilot has entirely prevented another attempted hijacking of an airliner. Every time you bang at that keyboard leaves me to wonder how you can even tie your shoes in the morning.
Zero dead terrorists is the goal. Deterrence is better than an airborne shoot-out. Arming the cockpit was always a good idea. It still is.
This thread is redundant: it's already being discussed: Anyone know this guy?
10-31-2023, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
You clearly also don’t understand the value of deterrence. And you point to a handful of instances in over two decades of the FFDO program as proof that it hasn’t prevented a hijacking? How can you possibly know that? Maybe…just maybe, the very real threat of an armed pilot has entirely prevented another attempted hijacking of an airliner. Every time you bang at that keyboard leaves me to wonder how you can even tie your shoes in the morning.
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