Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3767651)
Hope it's not the obvious reason why a CL604 would run out of fuel after 4.5 hours of flying.
Fuel is also cheaper at OSU then FXE, at least the retail price is. What made you think a 25,000hr (semi-retired) pilot would not refuel? |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3767651)
Hope it's not the obvious reason why a CL604 would run out of fuel after 4.5 hours of flying.
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3767765)
If you're suggesting fuel starvation, did you see the pictures and video of the crash scene? Lots of burning.
But I did not suggest this is the case. I said I hope it's not. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3767813)
Approx. 100 litres of unusable fuel will burn quite nicely.
But I did not suggest this is the case. I said I hope it's not. |
Originally Posted by WhisperJet
(Post 3768050)
dash cam video of the crash is circulating. They almost pulled it off. Concrete wall did them in.
https://www.threads.net/@bnonews/post/C3Q_68eAw51/ YouTuber Dan Gryder's Sunday night livestream included audio of the crew requesting 300 gallons/negative prist at OSU. That's the minimum fuel purchase to avoid fees at that FBO. |
Originally Posted by AirBear
(Post 3768062)
Here's the dash cam video:
https://www.threads.net/@bnonews/post/C3Q_68eAw51/ YouTuber Dan Gryder's Sunday night livestream included audio of the crew requesting 300 gallons/negative prist at OSU. That's the minimum fuel purchase to avoid fees at that FBO. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3767651)
Hope it's not the obvious reason why a CL604 would run out of fuel after 4.5 hours of flying.
"The NTSB has determined the probable cause to be sudden complete power loss from both engines for unknown reasons" ? |
I guess for most of us, fuel mismanagement would be the most comforting answer...
We have absolute control over that, and most of are quite diligent about staying very far away from such circumstances. Systemic issues such as fuel contamination would be more worrying. Undetermined cause would be most worrying. |
One hopes an errant Alaska Airlines captain wasn't riding in the cocpit.
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Hop-A-Jet has the highest platinum rating with ARGUS and has been rated since 2012. So if you can believe ARGUS they're not a "fly by night" operater.
The fuel they took on at OSU was just 2025lbs, around an hour's worth as others have stated. Once we see the FDR and CVR readouts we'll know a lot more. You would think if it was fuel starvation they would have at least declared "min fuel". And I'm assuming the 604 would give a low fuel warning. On other aviation websites speculation is the fuel iced up. But with either fuel/oil heat exchanger or another fuel heating system I don't see how that could happen. I almost never took prist once I got off the Citation Ultra. We were supposed to take it rarely just to kill off any growths in the fuel tanks. |
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