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Old 01-28-2025 | 09:05 AM
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https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/world-...unges-mid-air/

Headline says "Boeing".

At first glance I was like whatever, just more CAT.

But they're saying it wasn't actually turbulence...
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Old 01-28-2025 | 09:47 AM
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Supposedly that same aircraft (N27903) had a similar incident on the same route a couple of days earlier and diverted to Accra.
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Old 01-28-2025 | 03:13 PM
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Article explictly states this was a Boeing 737-800.

With 245 passengers and 11 crew on board.

Flying from Lagos, Nigera over the Atlanta Ocean to land in Washington Dulles 5,500 NM away.

Plus, "six passengers were injured in the melee". Wait, what? A MELEE?

Soo.....I'd take EVERYTHING about this article with a HUGE grain of salt.

(Going out on a limb here and say that author "Zoe Hussain" isn't an aviation expert. May even be a chatbot. )
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Old 01-28-2025 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Article explictly states this was a Boeing 737-800.

With 245 passengers and 11 crew on board.

Flying from Lagos, Nigera over the Atlanta Ocean to land in Washington Dulles 5,500 NM away.

Plus, "six passengers were injured in the melee". Wait, what? A MELEE?

Soo.....I'd take EVERYTHING about this article with a HUGE grain of salt.

(Going out on a limb here and say that author "Zoe Hussain" isn't an aviation expert. May even be a chatbot. )
I’m seeing more and more of this crap, especially online in major market newspapers. I wonder where all the copy editors disappeared to. For the above article, I would wager on GPT.


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Old 01-28-2025 | 05:02 PM
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Modern "journalism" being what it is, why not just use chatGPT? Most readers won't notice.

But if the same plane did the same thing previously, there might actually something to it.
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Old 01-29-2025 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Plus, "six passengers were injured in the melee". Wait, what? A MELEE?
... Just broke the first and second rules of Plane Club.
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Old 01-29-2025 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Modern "journalism" being what it is, why not just use chatGPT? Most readers won't notice.
I think that is what probably happened here. News outlets have been using bots to write articles for a while now.
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Old 01-29-2025 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Article explictly states this was a Boeing 737-800....
No, it doesn't say that. Possibly it was edited at some point, but it doesn't say that now.
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Old 01-29-2025 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Article explictly states this was a Boeing 737-800.
No, it doesn't. The article states that the aircraft is a 787:

Local emergency crew were on standby just four minutes after the pilot of the Boeing 787-800 aircraft reported distress at 1:20 a.m., according to the statement.
​​​​​​​https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/world-...unges-mid-air/
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Old 01-29-2025 | 08:07 PM
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Incidents similar to this are often related to physical force applied to the yoke, for various reasons, or high altitude upset.
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