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Wingnutxj 08-29-2011 06:59 PM

The runway length isn't the problem there, it is the width. I've been there a couple times this past month, and when it is raining with a crosswind, that runway look really small. I also like the 10 minute taxi from the terminal to runway 28.

Wingnut

FastDEW 08-29-2011 08:24 PM

Dude, Xjguy, relax.......

contrails 08-29-2011 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1046312)
Yes - fatigue is the buzz word isn't it. It fits lots of situations, and many times is tried to force into situations too.

USMCFLYR

How dare you refer to fatigue as a buzzword.

I did a continuous duty overnight today and slept from 9AM to 2pm when I got home.

The thing is, I could have had an entire workday scheduled after our early arrival because our layover time at the hotel was actually long enough to be called a reduced rest layover. Which, according to xjtguy, is what this crew had done not long before this incident took place.

So while I was able to come home and sleep as long as I wanted, I could have been in that plane landing on a 75 foot wide runway when, as evidenced by how long I slept when I got home, my body would have not been in any other rest state than one of fatigue.

Milk Man 08-30-2011 03:28 AM

Close this thread, I cant stand reading another annoying post from XJTGUY

propfails2FX 08-30-2011 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 1046424)
Close this thread, I cant stand reading another annoying post from XJTGUY

A shame because there is a lot of good info on this thread (RWY width, NWS malfunctions, crew rest).

Do airlines place restrictions against FO's landing on such a narrow runway? What type of guidance was disseminated on operating from KMLI during runway construction?

Oscar13601 08-30-2011 04:52 AM

Wao, it sounds like an uncommanded swirving on landing. That is one of the scariest things on the E145... The crew did a good job...

atlmsl 08-31-2011 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by xjtguy (Post 1046327)
Nope, just trying to get people to realize this crew may not need an "alibi" based on previous issues with the aircraft type. I really couldn't care less if that's a military term or not, it's pretty poor to use it in a situation like this. It seems as if somebody disagrees with you or has a different thought process than you, you get defensive. Sorry, you've got to be able to accept criticism yourself if you're gonna hand it out :cool:

I bet you're a joy to fly with.

Ramprat 08-31-2011 10:58 AM

Well then, reading some of the posts on this thread I think we all know who one of the crew members was. :D

Southerner 09-07-2011 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by propfails2FX (Post 1046431)
A shame because there is a lot of good info on this thread (RWY width, NWS malfunctions, crew rest).

Do airlines place restrictions against FO's landing on such a narrow runway? What type of guidance was disseminated on operating from KMLI during runway construction?

The runway is 100' wide. The width of the runway didn't have anything to do with the event.

xjtguy 09-07-2011 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 1051006)
The runway is 100' wide. The width of the runway didn't have anything to do with the event.

The ASAP ERC was late last week and the preliminary data was reviewed;

1) The touchdown was extremely smooth, despite a passenger's claim to the contrary
2) It happened at high speed as well as aggressively.
3) The crew reacted quickly and aggressively. Despite having the crap kicked out of them bouncing around and things flying all over the cockpit.

From what was garnered, a wider runway and it would have been just another slow news day in Moline.


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