TSA and Ottawa....
#23
(sarcasm and smart-assness (sp) aside, I've been looking for that report for a LONG time... My information came from the CA of said flight)
Saluki pilot, you are the one making judgements without facts, the presence or absence of grooving may have been a factor at all. 35 years, 5 types rating, 3 military types and 12,000 hours, want to trade jobs?
35 years and you still haven't learned to not talk excrement when a fellow aviator has an accident.
Apologies would be in order, if I was making reference to conclusions on THIS incident, I wasn't.
Always fun, winding up the young and impressionable
GF
GF
#24
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Left-out 145
Posts: 136
Read the Canadian TSB report that I was referring to, FIRST, then you can make more informed comments. I was referring to the TSA's record of overruns at CYOW.
Saluki pilot, you are the one making judgements without facts, the presence or absence of grooving may have been a factor at all. 35 years, 5 types rating, 3 military types and 12,000 hours, want to trade jobs?
Apologies would be in order, if I was making reference to conclusions on THIS incident, I wasn't.
Always fun, winding up the young and impressionable
GF
Saluki pilot, you are the one making judgements without facts, the presence or absence of grooving may have been a factor at all. 35 years, 5 types rating, 3 military types and 12,000 hours, want to trade jobs?
Apologies would be in order, if I was making reference to conclusions on THIS incident, I wasn't.
Always fun, winding up the young and impressionable
GF
#25
It would seem to sum it up, the whole statement is "I have a lot of hours in a few different airplanes, so therefore I am a much better pilot than all of you and in turn, am fully capable of determining whose fault an incident is without the facts and can assign blame at my own will." Might have missed a few items, but that is the gist that I get.
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#29
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 164
probably a way to say this without sounding like an a$$h0le. that you chose this way speaks to your character. fyi..the crew in the 2nd incident was found at no fault whatsoever, and did a hell of a job with putting that aircraft in the safest spot possible on the runoff.
i think all of us that have flown the 145 know how effective the tr's are. and we are all of the belief that at least the 1st 2, and im sure now the 3rd occurrence couldve been prevented with tr's and/or grooved runways. and yes, thats even with how $hiHy the 1st occurrence was flown.
#30
The runway was 32. It cannot be good when the local press has file photos of your overruns. The is the third Trans States (call sign: Waterski, how appropriate) overrun at CYOW. The report on the one in 2004 was kind of ugly, poor, unstabilized approach, long landing, etc.
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Lack of grooved surfaces, hell, lack of piloting.
GF
*---Right here---
Lack of grooved surfaces, hell, lack of piloting.
GF
So, now that we've cleared that up...