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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:14 AM
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Glendale: FAA Press Release Update

Too costly for cargo if I skimmed it correctly.
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:17 AM
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1 The projected cost for all-cargo operations is $306 million ($214 million present value at 7% and $252
million at 3%). The projected benefit of avoiding one fatal all-cargo accident ranges between $20.35
million and $32.55 million, depending on the number of crewmembers on board the aircraft.

Found this nugget on page 13
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:17 AM
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The final rule has been sent to the Federal Register for display and publication. It is currently available at:
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...-FinalRule.pdf, and will take effect in two years to allow commercial passenger airline operators time to transition.
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:22 AM
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Keep taking it in the shorts.
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:40 AM
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Make sure you get your free pizza in SDF tonight. I am sure with the pizza, you will get a big smile from your friendly ACP.
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:44 AM
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fully gutted and look at the HUGE loop hole at the bottom about the airlines developing their own programs... WOW, Good job ATA/Fedex/UPS.. you beat us hands down!

WE LOST.
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FailOperational
fully gutted and look at the HUGE loop hole at the bottom about the airlines developing their own programs... WOW, Good job ATA/Fedex/UPS.. you beat us hands down!

WE LOST.
I look at it as we got outspent, and in DC, money talks!
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:51 AM
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Now, let's see how the numb-n*ts that voted for the FDX foreign domicile spin this.... We got an effective 6% raise but gave up our only bargaining chip in the last 10 years and possibly for the next 10.

Also, now that the rest rules are published, I'd expect all sections "possibly affected" by them to be signed, sealed and delivered to the membership in less than 6 months.

Ah.... so you see folly in that expectation, you say????

Anyone that thinks that the company, with nothing to gain (they already have ALPA permission to open a domicile just about anywhere in Western Europe....) and higher wages or costs looking them in the face with a new contract, will negotiate honestly is just as ignorant as those that voted for the Foreign Domicile codicil.

In negotiations, you are in a business deal. The first one that blinks, loses. We blinked...
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Old 12-21-2011 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by viperdriver
The projected benefit of avoiding one fatal all-cargo accident ranges between $20.35
million and $32.55 million, depending on the number of crewmembers on board the aircraft.

Found this nugget on page 13
Right up until an all crago airplane lands on top of an A380 full of people. But hey the pax crew was well rested. Awesome.
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Old 12-21-2011 | 07:20 AM
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And the real joke is there are only recommendations for commuting. The passenger guys get their cake and get to eat it too. They get to show up as tired as they want after a commute (not recommended by the rule, but hey...) and then get better rest rules after show time! And the cargo guys got nada (and at FedEx, still have some commute duty period restrictions in the contract!)
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