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Old 04-11-2013 | 05:32 AM
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This puts a new twist on unmanned AND manned airplanes. Wonder if the company is considering this?

Hacker claims he can remotely hijack airplanes using an Android app
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Old 04-11-2013 | 05:52 AM
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Here is a larger artical on it.

Researcher Says He's Found Hackable Flaws In Airplanes' Navigation Systems - Forbes
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Old 04-11-2013 | 06:31 AM
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Maybe there's more to it that they're holding back for security reasons, but taking what they say at face value it's hard to be too worried.

I've never flown an aircraft that can get automatic FMS changes to speed/altitude/heading via ACARS. Anyone else? I could get a bogus message from dispatch the tells me to ASK for those changes but I still have to ask ATC and program the FMS.

I'm still scratching my head over how we go from bogus ACARS messages to dropping the masks in back.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 07:42 AM
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No problem. When you sense that a cellphone has coupled itself to your airplane, give a quick aileron pulse to jerk the phone out of the hacker's hand, then pitch up to make it hit him in the face.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 07:53 AM
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I heard in the next MISSION IMPOSSIBLE movie the terrorist take over the drone fleet.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
No problem. When you sense that a cellphone has coupled itself to your airplane, give a quick aileron pulse to jerk the phone out of the hacker's hand, then pitch up to make it hit him in the face.
I'm thinking you'd have to pitch down to hit him in the face. Unless his face was in a lap.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:06 AM
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As implausible as this may be, hijacking a UAV will definitely be plausible. North Korea, China, Iran.... who knows who in the future. They are already creating havoc with banking, imagine what they's due with a UAV. I think pilots have a good future as long as the bad guys can't be stopped from even simple (and supposedly well protected) hacking of banks and other land based institutions.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 10:56 AM
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Uploading a hacked FMS route change might be possible.......but that little button labeled A/P DSC gives the pilot the ultimate system override......assuming there is still a pilot in the cockpit of course....
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Old 04-11-2013 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
.......but that little button labeled A/P DSC gives the pilot the ultimate system override......
I thought that button was to wake the Captain when he gets snoring too loud on his leg ...

It does work well for that too ...

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Old 04-11-2013 | 04:28 PM
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Hacker uses an Android to remotely attack and hijack an airplane | Computerworld Blogs

Amazing how simple it is ... really.
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