Lion Air 73 Overshoots, in The Drink
04-15-2013 | 03:55 PM
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No wind shear or adverse wind conditions, just low viz.
Apparently, although I haven't seen it, the ADS-B track shows lion descending at 700'/min at a stable 130 something knots, all the way down final to hitting the water.
Apparently, although I haven't seen it, the ADS-B track shows lion descending at 700'/min at a stable 130 something knots, all the way down final to hitting the water.
04-15-2013 | 04:35 PM
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If that's true it fits with the deal of not letting this thing get slow. I could certainly see how it could happen especially if on a visual or non precision approach with low vis. They probably got preoccupied, let it get slow with an unrecognized or unchecked decent rate... Maybe the fix is just to have instructors keep a 2x4 or a bullhorn handy in the Sim... Bummer
04-15-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Was night time a factor? Inoperative or false glide slope? Didn't Korean Air do this a few years back?
04-15-2013 | 06:52 PM
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Daytime. Approach in use was the VOR/DME 09. It's got a slightly offset final which crosses the extended runway centreline right about where they hit the sea.
Don't have the chart in front of me but I think the MDA is 400' something. LNAV/VNAV generally keeps you a touch high and when you do become visual, the sea spray can make the PAPI's difficult to see.
Only ILS is for Rwy27.
Don't have the chart in front of me but I think the MDA is 400' something. LNAV/VNAV generally keeps you a touch high and when you do become visual, the sea spray can make the PAPI's difficult to see.
Only ILS is for Rwy27.
04-16-2013 | 04:52 AM
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Yes, it is so bad and believed to be a major factor in the safety record of Indonesia aviation that they are instituting a new regulation that expat pilots require a minimum of 250 hours of time on type in order to fly for an Indonesian company.
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04-28-2013 | 10:22 AM
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Yes, it is so bad and believed to be a major factor in the safety record of Indonesia aviation that they are instituting a new regulation that expat pilots require a minimum of 250 hours of time on type in order to fly for an Indonesian company.
Govt tightens up employment of foreign pilots | The Jakarta Post
Govt tightens up employment of foreign pilots | The Jakarta Post
The deal? I pay THEM $21,000 for 500 hrs in their PIC program. There are other fees above the $21K. After a year you are possibly given hiring preference, and he chance to stay as a skipper for something like $36k a yr.
I have never responded to their invitations.
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