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Old 07-05-2013, 04:35 AM
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Ramapo Police Ask FAA To Investigate Low-Flying Jet « CBS New York

Probably a Flight Check aircraft doing a clearence below path run

Anyways - - obviously still a lot of jitters out there involving aircraft.
Anybody out there in APC land know of this particular area?
Airports close by? Approach corridors?
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:55 AM
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You're right. Checking an approach into TEB.

http://"http://newyork.cbslocal.com/...-flight-path/"

I like how the article has picture labeled "airplane."
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp View Post
You're right. Checking an approach into TEB.

"http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/05/faa-low-flying-jet-in-ramapo-was-testing-flight-path/"

I like how the article has picture labeled "airplane."

Proof that SWAGs work sometimes!
I couldn't get your link to work, so I'll post this one.
FAA: Low-Flying Jet In Ramapo Was Testing Flight Path « CBS New York

It was actually a '4D' [type of accuracy code] obstacle check for an approach into KTEB.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:47 PM
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We had visits from angry residents several days ago who claimed that we were buzzing their houses during departures on fire operations. The departing flights were frequent and all day, so I understand the annoyance. We were at maximum performance and well over the original certificated gross weight of the aircraft (restricted category, higher allowances and limitations), and it was hot, and high density altitude. No way to climb any faster.

The airport manager told me later he came up with something about needing to fly a 3 degree climbout angle or some other made up story, but we'd have been thrilled to get that much climb.

A local resident did that years ago, and I sought the man out, and invited him and his family for a ride to show them why we flew where we did. He didn't take me up on it, though others have.

In most cases, the airports were there long before the houses, so it doesn't worry me too much that people aren't happy with the proximity or the noise. I don't tell the welder that his flame is too hot, or the barber that his razor is too sharp, and don't care much for those on the ground telling me my altitude is too low, my speed too high, or my flight path all wrong.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
A local resident did that years ago, and I sought the man out, and invited him and his family for a ride to show them why we flew where we did. He didn't take me up on it, though others have.
Would the insurance company allow this?
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I was Part 135; the insurance company left it up to us to determine who rode in our airplane. Comping the man for a ride was strictly a book keeping affair, so the insurance company's input had nothing to do with it.
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