Originally Posted by mx727
(Post 1440596)
> tail fell off on approach
> aircraft rolled upside down > that must be why we see damage on the roof turned off tv.... Finally, fox new's "transcript" of the atc recording will make you cry. Watch this at your own risk and don't take it out on your computer. san fran air traffic controllers recordings released | fox news video |
> Tail fell off on approach > Aircraft rolled upside down > That must be why we see damage on the roof Turned off TV.... Finally, Fox New's "transcript" of the ATC recording will make you cry. Watch this at your own risk and don't take it out on your computer. San Fran air traffic controllers recordings released | Fox News Video |
Originally Posted by IslanderDriver
(Post 1440606)
Only good thing about that video is that it shows the United 885 out if the way and unharmed. Hopefully the crew saw something that'll be useful to NTSB.
They saw it all... |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 1440408)
I guess I'll be the first to give the contollers, especially tower, cudos for how well they handled the evolution.
BRAVO ZULU Some of the news coverage makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon though. And I'm not even a heavy pilot, just a lowly Skylane gal. |
Question for 777 people:
Assuming both engine generators are gone, and the APU is in pieces somewhere near the threshold, were are the batteries so that the crew could use the radio after they came to a stop? (I know ours are in the tail as well so I'd assume no power at all) Just for the "fun" of speculating - Listening to the tower recording, just after SkyWest is cleared to land it sounds like the Asiana pilot saying something like "one engine" on the radio before getting stepped on by the tower. A few seconds later all the go arounds start. Looking at the picture is seems like the aircraft hit right of the centerline and just at the water line. There is a very clear skid mark from just past the numbers to where the nose wheel would be that kind of describes the skidding path it took. There is also a debris path of what looks like the left engine that came to a stop right of the runway just before the next taxiway. I also looks like all the flaps are missing on the left wing. Possible theory would be the right engine failing on short final and a possible attempt to go around? Over rotated and stalled onto the runway? Right engine was on full power so it is far forward and left engine failed/idle near the fuselage? Interesting to see what position the flaps we at (Landing or Go-Around) We all practice Single Engine Go-Arounds, but I would think if and engine failed at 200 feet I would just continue the landing from that point. Curious to see what the investigation turns up. |
Originally Posted by R3360
(Post 1440520)
BTW Is the FBI now standard ops for accident investigation? Kinda weird They have been for a long time. I think the investigation is joint NTSB and FBI until crime/terror is reasonably ruled out, at which point NTSB takes over. |
Originally Posted by daniel10
(Post 1440619)
Question for 777 people:
Assuming both engine generators are gone, and the APU is in pieces somewhere near the threshold, were are the batteries so that the crew could use the radio after they came to a stop? (I know ours are in the tail as well so I'd assume no power at all) I've flown airplanes with batteries in the nose. |
Does Asiana augment crews for this length of flight? Am wondering if fatigue will be an issue.
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Originally Posted by Rudder
(Post 1440624)
Does Asiana augment crews for this length of flight? Am wondering if fatigue will be an issue.
On another note, with where UAL885 was sitting, how did they taxi back to the terminal without crossing the debris field? |
Originally Posted by Rudder
(Post 1440624)
Does Asiana augment crews for this length of flight? Am wondering if fatigue will be an issue.
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