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JohnnyG 07-07-2013 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1440709)
Another possible contributor: The well documented cultural factor. I'll bet dollars to donuts this was a senior captain at the controls and the first officer(s) never said a word. Out of "respect", they remained silent and the poor guy was essentially single pilot.

Over and over and over and over, they'll do this until the end of time. It happened in Guam, it may have happened here.

hvydvr 07-07-2013 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1440737)
That's it? not much for 3 commercial 777 captains to have.....:eek:

Quote I just saw from the company said more than 10,000 each for the three senior and more than 5,000 for the junior guy.

WARich 07-07-2013 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by hvydvr (Post 1440752)
Quote I just saw from the company said more than 10,000 each for the three senior and more than 5,000 for the junior guy.

That makes much more sense....

Busboy 07-07-2013 08:15 AM

Somebody needs to call the media and tell them to add bird ingestion into the engines at low altitude over the bay to their probable causes.

Dave Fitzgerald 07-07-2013 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1440731)
USA Today says determining the cause could take "Years".....hmmm......black boxes already found, most the airplane still in one piece....plenty of witnesses and all the pilots alive......"Years", really.....what do they think the NTSB are a bunch of rookies?........give me a break....media........

Yes, the final accident report may not be issued for up to a year. The preliminary findings however, I'm guessing will be pretty quick here. And, no, 10,000 hrs is nothing for 777 pilots. Relatively speaking, between 3 pilots? No. I've got over 8000 just on the 757.

Softpayman 07-07-2013 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1440762)
Yes, the final accident report may not be issued for up to a year. The preliminary findings however, I'm guessing will be pretty quick here. And, no, 10,000 hrs is nothing for 777 pilots. Relatively speaking, between 3 pilots? No. I've got over 8000 just on the 757.

3 had at least 10,000 hrs. One around 5,000.

For all we know of the 3 one had 20,000, another 15,000 and 10,000. Fact is it was an experienced enough crew.

captfurlough 07-07-2013 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 1440699)
I can see the scenario now for your next LOFT. Your going to be required by the FAA to demonstrate a visual approach with an inop glide slope, no PAPI, and no vertical NAV .The procedure will be in the QRH. You will hold to burn off fuel and allow time for the cabin crew to prepare for a precautionary landing. You will be expected to coordinate with dispatch, maintenance, ATC, CFR, Chief Pilot, Base Manager, and anyone else that can provide assistance. Be prepared to attend an Event Review with all concerned.

What he said!!!! Great post!!!

Are there any 777 drivers here who can tell us about the auto thrust system on that aircraft? On a visual, would there be a use for an open descent mode with thrust idle, which would require a glide slope intercept (or altitude intercept, or V/S mode) to go to speed on thrust mode?

JRJ57 07-07-2013 09:26 AM

For you triple 7 drivers out there. Are the laws for Boeing similar to the laws on Airbus? (I.e. Stall protection)

Trogdor 07-07-2013 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1440445)
I had gotten the impression they were calling for the equipment from the airplane on the ground post-crash. But, I could be wrong.

That is what I thought. Tower clears Asiana to land, then moments later, you hear Skywest request a go-around, then hear the Asiana crew saying something to which the Tower indicates that emergency services are responding. Seems like this was post-incident.

Gjn290 07-07-2013 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 1440780)
3 had at least 10,000 hrs. One around 5,000.

For all we know of the 3 one had 20,000, another 15,000 and 10,000. Fact is it was an experienced enough crew.

Ah Ok. I hope that's the case. The article I ready said three captains with a combined experience of 10,000 hours.


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