SFO NAV ILS RWY 28L LLZ/DME OTS WEF 1307072000-1307072359

SFO NAV ILS RWY 28L GP OTS WEF 1306011400-1308222359

source: https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...trievalByICAOs

I hope they dont rely on an ILS G/S everytime they fly!

United crew that was holding short of 28L had a front row seat. UAL needed a few more minutes and was told to hold short of 28L. I missed that connection initially!

a simplified mp3 version. http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

This IS STRICTLY SPECULATION. It appears the fire is concentrated in the overhead bin area of the mid fuselage (over wing) area and may have spread from there. I'm not sure it was "fuel related." Was the airplane on fire when it landed ? Tower tapes should show if an emergency was declared.

an "airplane spotter" (professional airliner photography) who sounded more credible than some. Said he never saw a single emergency vehicle on the taxiways awaiting the aircraft. He also said airplanes were accepting takeoff clearance while Asiana was on final. And tower never gave Asiana priority when they checked into tower for landing clearance. Actually, Asiana had to contact tower twice reporting on Final for 28L before tower even responded. Tower gave several radio calls to other aircraft before finally clearing Asiana to land. If they were emergency, tower would've prioritized them.

Airline "expert" is commenting on an online, animated, descent model for today's flight compared to the descent model of yesterday's flight. And the animated profile was extremely steep for todays.

That BA 777 had ice crystals in the fuel, a problem specific to the Rolls Royce fuel oil heat exchangers. GE and Pratt powered 777s were not affected by this problem.

The Asiana 777 (HL 7742) was a Pratt powered aircraft.

Asiana Airlines HL7742 (Boeing 777 - MSN 29171) | Airfleets aviation

Thanks Archie. Good to know. When I thought the Asiana had landed short, the BA 777 was the first thing I thought of.

Yes, it does look a lot like that British 777 that crashed short of runway. And I remember your observations of that accident shortly after it happened as if it were yesterday; something about an 'inexperienced crew', if I remember correctly. Not even close, as we all learned months later as the cause was fuel ice.

Happens every crash.

Wow, these eye-witnesses are pretty bad that they're putting on TV.

"it cartwheeled"

"it rolled and flipped over a few times"

"both wings broke off"