Pilots involved in hijacking rule changes
12-29-2013, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 58November
Well 1st, it is part of the FAA mandate to keep records of all incidents and accidents/ hijackings. That is part of their mission.
You can find other hijacking events on their website faa.gov
Next, the FAA was a defendant in the case. FAA personnel testified at the trial, gave depositions, etc. The DOT Secretary and FAA D director of Safety were also named.
This was the 1st hijacking in the US where a captain had been killed.
The records should be maintained in their archives.....everything they do gets stored there from since the agency was created.
You can find other hijacking events on their website faa.gov
Next, the FAA was a defendant in the case. FAA personnel testified at the trial, gave depositions, etc. The DOT Secretary and FAA D director of Safety were also named.
This was the 1st hijacking in the US where a captain had been killed.
The records should be maintained in their archives.....everything they do gets stored there from since the agency was created.
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Our continuing mission is to provide the safest, most efficient aerospace system in the world.
Our Vision
We strive to reach the next level of safety, efficiency, environmental responsibility and global leadership. We are accountable to the American public and our stakeholders.
Our Values
Safety is our passion. We work so all air and space travelers arrive safely at their destinations.
Excellence is our promise. We seek results that embody professionalism, transparency and accountability.
Integrity is our touchstone. We perform our duties honestly, with moral soundness, and with the highest level of ethics.
People are our strength. Our success depends on the respect, diversity, collaboration, and commitment of our workforce.
Innovation is our signature. We foster creativity and vision to provide solutions beyond today's boundaries.
FAA's major roles and responsibilities
Under the broad umbrella of safety and efficiency, we have several major roles:
Regulating civil aviation to promote safety
Encouraging and developing civil aeronautics, including new aviation technology
Developing and operating a system of air traffic control and navigation for both civil and military aircraft
Researching and developing the National Airspace System and civil aeronautics
Developing and carrying out programs to control aircraft noise and other environmental effects of civil aviation
Regulating U.S. commercial space transportation
Now, maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see you pointed in a direction that would be helpful, rather than a false hope.
12-29-2013, 09:56 AM
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It should be kept in mind, that safety and security are not the same, and that their principles are often mutually exclusive. So if the FAA is safety-oriented - “Under the broad umbrella of safety” - then it can't be at the same time security-minded. Conversely, the TSA couldn't care less about safety. It does works with the FAA, but only reluctantly, and often in bitter conflict – which it usually wins. The “impenetrable” cockpit door is a good example. Just ask any ARFF crew what he thinks of it.
For obvious reasons, public discussion of this topic [security] would be self-defeating. Therefore, only general comments are appropriate here. First, security ought not be treated as a safety issue. Although the objects of both functions may be the same (i.e. to protect someone or something), the nature of the threat is not. Safety is protection against involuntary threats; security is protection against deliberate threats. It would be as absurd to try to prevent aggression by applying principles of safety as it would be to try to prevent accidents by applying principles of security. For example a dead-bolt on the front door of the cottage would be as ineffective against carbon monoxide gas as a guardrail on the roadside would be against a burglar. Sometimes, the two functions conflict. Putting bars on windows to prevent a burglar from gaining entry into the cottage blocks means of egress in case of fire. Therefore, both security and safety must take into account mutual co-existence and discourage competition. (G.N. Fehér, Beyond Stick-and-Rudder, Hawkesbury, 2013, p. 314)
The mutual exclusivity of these two notions is especially evident in the data processing industry. Whereas one of the means to safeguard data from loss is the maintenance of multiple safety-backups, protecting it from unauthorized access means limiting copies.
For obvious reasons, public discussion of this topic [security] would be self-defeating. Therefore, only general comments are appropriate here. First, security ought not be treated as a safety issue. Although the objects of both functions may be the same (i.e. to protect someone or something), the nature of the threat is not. Safety is protection against involuntary threats; security is protection against deliberate threats. It would be as absurd to try to prevent aggression by applying principles of safety as it would be to try to prevent accidents by applying principles of security. For example a dead-bolt on the front door of the cottage would be as ineffective against carbon monoxide gas as a guardrail on the roadside would be against a burglar. Sometimes, the two functions conflict. Putting bars on windows to prevent a burglar from gaining entry into the cottage blocks means of egress in case of fire. Therefore, both security and safety must take into account mutual co-existence and discourage competition. (G.N. Fehér, Beyond Stick-and-Rudder, Hawkesbury, 2013, p. 314)
The mutual exclusivity of these two notions is especially evident in the data processing industry. Whereas one of the means to safeguard data from loss is the maintenance of multiple safety-backups, protecting it from unauthorized access means limiting copies.
01-06-2014, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 58November
Well 1st, it is part of the FAA mandate to keep records of all incidents and accidents/ hijackings. That is part of their mission.
You can find other hijacking events on their website faa.gov
Next, the FAA was a defendant in the case. FAA personnel testified at the trial, gave depositions, etc. The DOT Secretary and FAA D director of Safety were also named.
This was the 1st hijacking in the US where a captain had been killed.
The records should be maintained in their archives.....everything they do gets stored there from since the agency was created.
You can find other hijacking events on their website faa.gov
Next, the FAA was a defendant in the case. FAA personnel testified at the trial, gave depositions, etc. The DOT Secretary and FAA D director of Safety were also named.
This was the 1st hijacking in the US where a captain had been killed.
The records should be maintained in their archives.....everything they do gets stored there from since the agency was created.
In addition, most gov't FOIA officers I've dealt with are just a bunch of dumba$$ GS goons who make a paycheck for having a heartbeat and showing up to work.
If this is really important to you, don't fight this yourself. Seek professional assistance.
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