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Old 11-17-2013, 10:33 AM
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Boeing airliner crashes in Russia, 50 killed | Reuters

(Reuters) - A Boeing 737-500 airliner crashed on landing in the Russian city of Kazan on Sunday, killing all 50 on board and highlighting the poor safety record of Russian airlines that ply internal routes across the world's largest nation.

The Tatarstan airlines flight from Moscow was trying to abort its landing in order to make a second approach, but it exploded on hitting the runway, killing all 44 passengers and six crew on board, emergency officials said.

The only picture shown from the scene on Russian television reports was a blurred still shot of the plane's fuselage with firefighters in the foreground, apparently after they had extinguished a fire at the scene.

Flight U363 took off from Moscow's Domodedovo airport at 6:25 pm (1425 GMT) and crashed just over an hour later, emergency officials said.

The plane was 23 years old.

According to eyewitness reports, the Boeing lost altitude quickly and its fuel tank exploded on impact.

There were high winds and cloudy skies over the airport in central Russia. Temperatures were above zero.

Boeing officials at the Dubai Airshow declined to comment on the crash.

Kazan, which is 800 km (500 miles) east of Moscow, is capital of the largely-Muslim, oil-rich region of Tatarstan. A new runway was built at the airport ahead of the World Student Games, held in the city earlier this year.

Russia will host the Winter Olympics in the southern city of Sochi early next year.

Russia spans nine time zones, from the Baltic Sea to the Pacific across large areas of largely uninhabited land, making efficient air travel and train links especially important to the country's economy. In Soviet times Aeroflot had a virtual monopoly of the airline industry, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, a multitude of small private companies emerged.

A spokesman for state aviation oversight agency Rosaviatsia said authorities wouldssearch for the flight recorders.

"The plane touched the ground and burst into flame," Sergei Izvolsky said. "The cause of the crash as of now is unknow."

Russia and the former Soviet republics combined had one of the world's worst air-traffic safety records in 2011, with a total accident rate almost three times the world average, according to the International Air Transport Association.

IATA said last year that global airline safety had improved but that accident rates had risen in Russia and the ex-Soviet Commonwealth of Independent States.

In April 2012, at least 31 people were killed when a Russian passenger plane crashed shortly after take-off in Siberia.

In September 2011, a Yak-42 passenger jet carrying members of a major league ice hockey team came down shortly after takeoff and burst into flames near the Russian city of Yaroslavl, killing 44 people.

The Boeing 737 is the world's most popular passenger jet in commercial use today. There have been 170 crashes involving this model of aircraft since it came into use.

In the Russian city of Perm in 2008, a Boeing 737 exploded just a kilometers above the ground minutes before landing, killing 88 people

(Reporting by Douglas Busvine and Alissa de Carbonnel; additional reporting by Gleb Stolyarov; Editing by Ralph Boulton)
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Prayers for pax, crew and their families are in the works at this end.
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There is video of the crash on other sites although it's impossible to really know whether the video is genuine. It's at night so it's very dark. You can not identify the aircraft. It shows it hitting the ground in a nearly vertical dive and a tremendous explosion. I certainly wouldn't describe the accident as, "It touched the ground and exploded." Something was lost in translation there.

http://youtu.be/2yE8JbE5k5U
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What are the chances that a 737 can crash, in what appears to be near vertilal for several hundred feet, to the ground and still hit the runway ... never mind the airfield?
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What are the chances that a 737 can crash, in what appears to be near vertilal for several hundred feet, to the ground and still hit the runway ... never mind the airfield?
Go around gone bad? Rudder reverasal like the United in COS or US Airways in PIT?
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What are the chances that a 737 can crash, in what appears to be near vertilal for several hundred feet, to the ground and still hit the runway ... never mind the airfield?
Botched stall recovery?
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Go around gone bad? Rudder reverasal like the United in COS or US Airways in PIT?
I have seen reports and animations of both and understand there are many ways this can happen, but actually go several hundred feet near vertical and hit the runway.

Reports state that there was a go-around prior, maybe this was a second, which would make sense being aligned over the runway at several hundred feet.

Since this plane was of the era of Boeings rudder issues and the is has been leased to various third world airlines after the issue was quantified, could it be that the problem was never retrofitted?

Hopefully the Russian investigation will be thorough and valid.

RIP poor soles.
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Botched stall recovery?
…or a kid at the controls perhaps?

Pilot's Son May Have Caused Air Crash in Russia - Los Angeles Times
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New Article suggests the pilot may not have been properly licensed.

The Russian pilot who sent a Boeing 737 into a near-vertical dive, killing all 50 people on board, might have had a fake license, Russian investigators said Friday.

Investigative Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin said his team believes that some pilots working for small regional airlines in Russia have not been properly trained but managed to get fake licenses in centers certified by the country's aviation agency.

Markin said the pilot who sent the Boeing 737 into a dive after an aborted first landing attempt in the city of Kazan had received his license from a small training center that has since been shut down.
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