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Old 06-11-2014, 04:32 AM
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A few nights ago, a Phoenix East student and instructor were killed when their C-172 crashed shortly after takeoff at Daytona Beach International. The link attached as the LiveATC recording distress call from the instructor and a video of the firey aftermath.

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This is sad to hear. Second crash in 3 years. RIP to the instructor and student.
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The comm for Phoenix35 that is highlighted in the news video starts at just after 23+00, and then the distress call comes at just after 26+00 if you want to find the pertinent parts a little easier. Obviously the news channel spliced all the comm together and it makes it look like everything happened in a few seconds.

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The comm for Phoenix35 that is highlighted in the news video starts at just after 23+00, and then the distress call comes at just after 26+00 if you want to find the pertinent parts a little easier. Obviously the news channel spliced all the comm together and it makes it look like everything happened in a few seconds.

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Yeah, I listened to the raw audio as well. Sounds like they came from the practice area for night patterns. The stall horn in the background and lack of engine noise especially after how much you could hear on the initial check in with tower sounds like an engine failure.
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The news guy said it was a TO accident, that's wrong isn't it? They were in the pattern for landing when it happened? Either way, loss of engine at night in a single is risky business, and even most junior flight instructors are simply not ready to teach or do it. I made it a point when I used to do a lot of instructing to talk through SEL night engine outs with students, and I was appalled at how little wisdom there is in standard educational materials about this obviously serious topic.
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The news guy said it was a TO accident, that's wrong isn't it? They were in the pattern for landing when it happened? Either way, loss of engine at night in a single is risky business, and even most junior flight instructors are simply not ready to teach or do it. I made it a point when I used to do a lot of instructing to talk through SEL night engine outs with students, and I was appalled at how little wisdom there is in standard educational materials about this obviously serious topic.
It was on takeoff. Tower cleared the riddle aircraft to follow the a Cessna on the upwind. Usually DAB gave a clearance with the landing traffic just airborne or on the go. So, a several second pause and then the distress call. Seconds later the Riddle aircraft reported that the aircraft had just gone down.
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Doesn't look like much forward speed.
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This does suck . My buddy went to that school and she was one of his students . RIP
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