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Old 09-22-2014 | 06:26 AM
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91.225 (e). Same story for old-school planes in the same places as before.
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Old 09-22-2014 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
Grow a pair, but that would be asking too much. I've seen plenty of people like you and I know you never stop until you suck the life out of aviation as best as you can.
So what's wrong with a working transponder? It doesn't have to interfere with your enjoyment at all, it's passive all you have to do is turn it on. But somebody else might be able to use the signal to avoid killing you and themselves. Unless you're running a load of dope, I don't see why a transponder is such a cramp on your style.
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Old 09-22-2014 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
So what's wrong with a working transponder? It doesn't have to interfere with your enjoyment at all, it's passive all you have to do is turn it on. But somebody else might be able to use the signal to avoid killing you and themselves. Unless you're running a load of dope, I don't see why a transponder is such a cramp on your style.
Exactly!

A transponder serves a very basic but priceless purpose.
Not wanting to use one because you feel it invades your privacy or lessens your machismo is goofy at best.

Note: You are not the only hay wagon flying around VFR etc. out there.
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Old 09-22-2014 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Glama
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I just want to get the views on flying without a transponder in this day and age in a controlled airspace which has no radar.
In the process of pitching an argument to some hard heads of how unsafe that is and looking for any views, for and against

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Flying into an ADIZ almost always REQUIRES a transponder. If not you'll receive a warm welcome from two of the DoD's finest..

According to 14 CFR 99.13, no person may operate an aircraft into or out of the United States, or into, within, or across an ADIZ designated in subpart B unless operating a transponder with Mode C. Certain exemptions might apply to aircraft that were not originally certified with an engine-driven electrical system; see 99.13(d).
Exemptions

Aircraft not originally certificated with an engine-driven electrical system or subsequently have not been certified with such a system installed, balloons, or gliders may conduct operations:


In the airspace within 30 nautical miles of the listed airports as long as operations are conducted:
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Old 10-02-2014 | 02:55 PM
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Like I said, I've given up on the sucking the joy out of aviation crowd... Just please never get in my cockpit.
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Old 10-02-2014 | 03:51 PM
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Transponders cost money = bad.

Transponders make your airplane more visible to almost every other aircraft around = good.

Spending money to get increased chance of longevity = easy call IMHO.
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Old 10-02-2014 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
Transponders make your airplane more visible to almost every other aircraft around = good.
No they don't. That only works if one is working with ATC.

Spending money to get increased chance of longevity = easy call IMHO.
Are you saying that without a transponder your longevity is greatly reduced? Poppycock.
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Old 10-02-2014 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Bockelman
No they don't. That only works if one is working with ATC.
ADS-B out transponders allow aircraft to "see" each other without coordination with ATC via air-to-air transmits.

All aircraft positions while in radar contact are relayed to TIS-B transmitters, allowing any receiver with ADS-B capabilities to display traffic positions, even aircraft operating older Mode C transponders.

Mode C transponders transmit altitude to ATC whenever in ALT mode, making ATC traffic alerts to other aircraft more effective without the transmitting aircraft's direct participation.

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Understanding ADS-B traffic - iPad Pilot News

Originally Posted by Greg Bockelman
Are you saying that without a transponder your longevity is greatly reduced? Poppycock.
I may have been unclear. My point is that ADS-B capabilities dramatically increase your choice of tools to reduce chances of mid-air collisions. I prefer flying our school's Piper Arrow with live traffic display to our C172s without traffic display. The extra situational awareness is welcome.
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Old 10-02-2014 | 04:56 PM
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Better ban those damn ultralights without transponders. They're bad... Very bad.
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Old 10-02-2014 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
Better ban those damn ultralights without transponders. They're bad... Very bad.
Are you related to the crop duster pilot with whom I had the unfortunate privilege of sharing an airport? The guy who would go blasting into a 10 knot tailwind final with no radio at the flight club with active student pilots? Just because that was the old-school way to do it?

EDIT disclaimer: I think ultralights are awesome and hope to get to fly one someday. But they aren't usually a factor when we're doing steep spirals / chandelles for training.
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