Look at ME!
02-03-2015, 01:24 PM
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Look at ME!
Remember when the two most dangerous words in Aviation were:
"Watch This!"
Seems with the Facebook generation making Selfies all day, the new most dangerous words are:
"Look at ME!"
Pilot taking 'selfies' before fatal Colorado crash -report
"Watch This!"
Seems with the Facebook generation making Selfies all day, the new most dangerous words are:
"Look at ME!"
Pilot taking 'selfies' before fatal Colorado crash -report
02-03-2015, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Remember when the two most dangerous words in Aviation were:
"Watch This!"
Seems with the Facebook generation making Selfies all day, the new most dangerous words are:
"Look at ME!"
Pilot taking 'selfies' before fatal Colorado crash -report
"Watch This!"
Seems with the Facebook generation making Selfies all day, the new most dangerous words are:
"Look at ME!"
Pilot taking 'selfies' before fatal Colorado crash -report
02-03-2015, 06:54 PM
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What a dumbass. Too bad he took a passenger with him. But other than that, thankfully this guy never got behind the helm of a RJ, or corporate jet and tried the same BS.
The last incompetent pilot killed a family with his jet, along with all his passengers. (Crashed at that airport before too) . When the hell will people realize we can learn from others mistakes, or simply use common sense and keep the aircraft in one peice.
Im sure some of you will disagree with what I just said or find it unfair, but thats how I see it. But ill still say the cliche, "rest in peace". But I wont act like this guy couldn't have easily prevented it. 100% his responsibility to stay IFR current, and not take "selfies" while acting PIC. Especially during TO, and climb out. But I guess this guy missed his ADM lesson...
The last incompetent pilot killed a family with his jet, along with all his passengers. (Crashed at that airport before too) . When the hell will people realize we can learn from others mistakes, or simply use common sense and keep the aircraft in one peice.
Im sure some of you will disagree with what I just said or find it unfair, but thats how I see it. But ill still say the cliche, "rest in peace". But I wont act like this guy couldn't have easily prevented it. 100% his responsibility to stay IFR current, and not take "selfies" while acting PIC. Especially during TO, and climb out. But I guess this guy missed his ADM lesson...
02-03-2015, 10:46 PM
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This a blazing example of why there should be NO 250 hr airline pilots.
Pilots need time to go out and fly around, learn from their mistakes (or not survive) and scare themselves a few times. WTH are you ALPA when it comes to the Riddle "summits" and these greasy, sleazy suits trying to sell the 250 hr "trained" pilot as acceptable--and using the ridiculous example of the military 250 hr PIC as their poster boys(and girls)? This is the same type ignorant recklessness that induced the core lock at Pinnacle.
Pilots need time to go out and fly around, learn from their mistakes (or not survive) and scare themselves a few times. WTH are you ALPA when it comes to the Riddle "summits" and these greasy, sleazy suits trying to sell the 250 hr "trained" pilot as acceptable--and using the ridiculous example of the military 250 hr PIC as their poster boys(and girls)? This is the same type ignorant recklessness that induced the core lock at Pinnacle.
02-04-2015, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bedrock
This a blazing example of why there should be NO 250 hr airline pilots.
Pilots need time to go out and fly around, learn from their mistakes (or not survive) and scare themselves a few times. WTH are you ALPA when it comes to the Riddle "summits" and these greasy, sleazy suits trying to sell the 250 hr "trained" pilot as acceptable--and using the ridiculous example of the military 250 hr PIC as their poster boys(and girls)? This is the same type ignorant recklessness that induced the core lock at Pinnacle.
Pilots need time to go out and fly around, learn from their mistakes (or not survive) and scare themselves a few times. WTH are you ALPA when it comes to the Riddle "summits" and these greasy, sleazy suits trying to sell the 250 hr "trained" pilot as acceptable--and using the ridiculous example of the military 250 hr PIC as their poster boys(and girls)? This is the same type ignorant recklessness that induced the core lock at Pinnacle.
02-04-2015, 08:08 AM
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NTSB Report
CEN14FA265: Full Narrative
(hate the new "website" format)
The pilot, age 29, held a commercial pilot certificate with ratings for single engine land, multi-engine land and instrument airplane. The pilot also held a ground instructor certificate. The pilot was issued an unrestricted first class medical certificate on August 29, 2013.
A review of the pilot's logbooks revealed that he had accumulated about 726 total flight hours, 38 hours in the last 30 days and 4.5 hours in the 24 hours preceding the accident flight. He had 27.1 hours in night conditions and 0.5 hours in simulated IMC in the last 60 days. He accumulated a total of 99 hours in simulated IMC and 14.7 hours in actual IMC. The logbooks did not reveal whether or not he had completed the flight currency requirements to operate in IMC or to carry passengers at night (see ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - 14 CFR Part 61.57 (c) Instrument experience; 14 CFR Part 61.57 (b) Night takeoff and landing experience).
On May 30, 2014, at 2359, a special surface weather observation from the Denver International Airport (DEN), which was located 5 miles northwest of the accident site, reported: wind calm, 2 ½ miles visibility, mist, ceiling overcast at 300 feet, temperature 55° Fahrenheit (F), dew point 54° F, and altimeter setting 30.19 inches of mercury.
On May 31, 2014 at 0027, another special surface weather observation was issued for DEN: wind from 160 degrees at 3 knots, 6 miles visibility, mist, scattered clouds at 200 feet, broken clouds at 500 feet, temperature 55 degrees F, dew point 54 degrees F, and altimeter setting 30.19 inches of mercury.
(hate the new "website" format)
The pilot, age 29, held a commercial pilot certificate with ratings for single engine land, multi-engine land and instrument airplane. The pilot also held a ground instructor certificate. The pilot was issued an unrestricted first class medical certificate on August 29, 2013.
A review of the pilot's logbooks revealed that he had accumulated about 726 total flight hours, 38 hours in the last 30 days and 4.5 hours in the 24 hours preceding the accident flight. He had 27.1 hours in night conditions and 0.5 hours in simulated IMC in the last 60 days. He accumulated a total of 99 hours in simulated IMC and 14.7 hours in actual IMC. The logbooks did not reveal whether or not he had completed the flight currency requirements to operate in IMC or to carry passengers at night (see ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - 14 CFR Part 61.57 (c) Instrument experience; 14 CFR Part 61.57 (b) Night takeoff and landing experience).
On May 30, 2014, at 2359, a special surface weather observation from the Denver International Airport (DEN), which was located 5 miles northwest of the accident site, reported: wind calm, 2 ½ miles visibility, mist, ceiling overcast at 300 feet, temperature 55° Fahrenheit (F), dew point 54° F, and altimeter setting 30.19 inches of mercury.
On May 31, 2014 at 0027, another special surface weather observation was issued for DEN: wind from 160 degrees at 3 knots, 6 miles visibility, mist, scattered clouds at 200 feet, broken clouds at 500 feet, temperature 55 degrees F, dew point 54 degrees F, and altimeter setting 30.19 inches of mercury.
02-04-2015, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bedrock
This a blazing example of why there should be NO 250 hr airline pilots.
Pilots need time to go out and fly around, learn from their mistakes (or not survive) and scare themselves a few times. WTH are you ALPA when it comes to the Riddle "summits" and these greasy, sleazy suits trying to sell the 250 hr "trained" pilot as acceptable--and using the ridiculous example of the military 250 hr PIC as their poster boys(and girls)? This is the same type ignorant recklessness that induced the core lock at Pinnacle.
Pilots need time to go out and fly around, learn from their mistakes (or not survive) and scare themselves a few times. WTH are you ALPA when it comes to the Riddle "summits" and these greasy, sleazy suits trying to sell the 250 hr "trained" pilot as acceptable--and using the ridiculous example of the military 250 hr PIC as their poster boys(and girls)? This is the same type ignorant recklessness that induced the core lock at Pinnacle.
