Ya think?! :eek:

we dont take too kindly to your type here, mhm

I'll join the facebiter. Nah, go to NY HQ and be on AC360. Uh, silhouetted of course. On screen, the name Facebiter discusses hiring practices by unnamed regionals.

Sorry, nobody is going to do your work for you. I will, however, provide expert consultation for $1400 per hour and will reliably answer your questions. A few others here have similar policy. 10 hour increments only, payment in advance.

Congrats you have stooped to regional levels. High and mighty at first, now condescending. What's the matter? Small-man's syndrome? Your woman getting it from better stud service—that you have to resort to bullying the peasants? You're pretty low, boy.

Nicely said and properly billed Cardio:D
Go away CNNer- you going to test amtrak/taxi operators as well? This was an outlier of outliers. The "news" has to start thinking with I/E.:rolleyes:

Sooooooooo, you're going to turn to an anonymous internet forum for a "reliable source", eh??

derp derp derrrrrrrrrrrrrrpty derp derp

Typical media ****stick. "Confidential sources say.....hack hack hack"

You do know the only "people" slithering around below you are terrorists who actually kill innocent people, right? I would cite child molesters as well, but you media scumbags even do that, too.

What part of the phrase "exceedingly rare" or "outlier of outliers" causes you to believe an entire industry should be forced to tapdance to YOUR industry's hysteria and fear-mongering?? Don't bother answering that.

It's a rhetorical question for a media hack who thinks he/she can legitimately troll an anonymous forum for a "reliable source".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MO73ftdpA

Is that the reason we are stuck listening to Richard Quest constantly, the real pilots want to much money? His theories about a possible medical emergency were border line retarded.

No. I am just someone who has had an interest in aviation and am asking a few questions of those who likely to provide the most incisive and knowledgeable answers. But so what if I was?
I share your opinion of the idiotic BS on CNN and I would think that some of the folks here who are equally disgusted with such a font of misinformation might take an opportunity to provide some answers that were actually authoritative.

Then I suggest you go to each individual airline's public relations branch and ask them. Searching on an anonymous message board for your answers is not the best way.

This is actually quite illuminating by itself. I saw nothing in the registration that required someone to be a professional pilot in order to comment or ask questions. I would suggest you contact the administrator to make your forum invite only. This way you may be able to hide what is apparently a shared and very deep, almost paranoid defensiveness from the general public.
First; how, exactly would a "media hack" get a reliable source off an anonymous board? Make up a name of, or ascribe it to someone's nickname.
Second; if I was some nefarious professional reporter, why would I have admitted right off that I was not a pilot? Believe me, by not doing so and with a little "pushing", a good reporter could have gotten some really juicy "quotes".
Pilots and the work they do has long been a source of admiration to me. I had always hoped that without the physical problems that made me unable to fly, I might have been able to fly. But you really need to thicken your skins a little bit. That way maybe you could provide those outside the brotherhood (or sisterhood) with a viewpoint other than paranoid defensiveness and general overall arrogance.

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I'll do it for half as much as long as I get to use a shiny, new pen! :D

Well for one, the majority of people that are on this board join in order to ask questions that pertain to, well, flying...or getting hired by an airline. They don't exactly start asking questions such as yours for their very first post, so naturally questions such as yours are going to raise some eyebrows.

If you knew how many brand new accounts pop up after every crash, all by "someone who has had an interest in aviation and am asking a few questions," and then having our answers quoted by the media, you would realize our "paranoia" is justified.

Also, if ever you are at a bar or party and want alienate a pilot, ask him/her about "that one crash a while back." Better yet, tell him why you know 9/11 was an inside job and that "chemtrails" are part of a government mind control experiment. If I had a dollar for every one of those questions, I could retire at 50.

You SCAB! :D

Make sure he throws in a newspaper too.

All questions the public wants to know the answers to can be found in that readers digest article. What was that called? 50 secrets your pilot won't tell you? Yea that one, all the answers to this crash are in there.

I never flew for any of the regionals like you did, so maybe that experience is what drives such an intemperate post. But for you to still state this now that you're flying for a major, gives me pause about you being one of our few problem children.

I've been flying for majors since 1979 and without a doubt, airline pilots are the most centered, calm, rational and very intelligent group I've been exposed to. My 3 day physical in 1983 was done at the Mayo Clinic and the entire last day was devoted to psychological testing, profiling and sessions with shrinks. Most all the majors were/are the same. I think the pilots of major airlines have the smallest percentage of problematic people than ANY other profession. Bar none.

Just can't imagine what professional experiences of yours could have led you to such a post.

Carl

I'm thinking when you "grow your own" like LH does, you may want to watch out for inbreeding. The guy seemed to have some special handling and no shortage of cash.

As I understand it, the psychiatric profession has a higher incidence of suicide that almost any other. Hmmm...

Anyway, (shameless plug alert!) watch for my soon-to-be-published fact-filled (well, facts based on hazy memories, rumor, innuendo, and totally made up fantasies) research paper: "Aberrant Personalities in Airline Cockpits."

Those who wish to be omitted from this fine exposé may submit a suitable editing fee, payable in gold bullion only, any time prior to publication. You know who you are...

Sad thing is that Richard Quest was one of the better guests. He was the only one to realize that this was an extreme outlier and that any kneejerk reaction would do nothing to enhance safety. So tired of the entire CNN lineup though- one stupid question/comment after another without a clue.:rolleyes:

In my mind, Les Abend is the best one interviewed so far. Next are the former NTSB and FBI guys. The hosts, moderators, anchors, whatever you call 'em, seem way too occupied with hearing their own chatter and fawning over the pontifications of so-called experts like Quest and Schiavo instead of listening to real professionals like Abend. He, and others like him, have worked in the commercial aviation system for many years, have current real-world knowledge and experience in how it works (often in the same model of aircraft involved), and could make truly insightful comments if allowed. I guess they're not colorful enough. Back to the entertainers, folks, right after this...

Quest is a bit too bombastic and dogmatic for my taste, and I don't really think he's the aviation "expert" he purports to be. Maybe it's just the way he comes across.

Schiavo's credentials look good on paper, but some of things she says makes me wonder just how deep her aviation knowledge goes. I've never been impressed with her. I think she may be there more to keep the PC police happy and less to add anything useful to the conversation.

Another gripe I have with the "news" coverage is their mindless giving away of entirely too much information that should remain need-to-know. The exact details on how the cockpit security door works (with pictures!) is a blatant example. I'm almost surprised they didn't give out the door codes as well.

Unfortunately, all the networks are pretty much the same on this score. A little news, a lot of bloviating, go to commercial, repeat. Ad nauseam.

Please submit 2¢ for this totally unbiased appraisal.

You're wrong on the point of "disorders".

You may be mistaking eccentricity for pathology. Since pilots don't spend 50 hours/week in a building full of white-collar people with hierarchies and agendas they're not routinely "caged" on a daily basis by saturation in the establishment. They're free to form their own belief systems based on whatever wingnut websites they may like to frequent. Generally harmless but they sure can make you think "What The...??"

Many of them remind me of truck drivers I know...plenty of access to info, but no real discrimination as to the quality of the info.

This mainly applies to civilian-track pilots who've never done anything else but fly. Military and civilian career-changers have worked in organizations and typically have their gyros caged.

If I had to listen to people whining about how mommy didn't love me or how people just don't get me all day long, I'd off myself too.:p

Sure, Cooper and Dick Quest are just chock full of good ideas.

2008_04_quest2.jpgSo, CNN personality Richard Quest was arrested early Friday morning for drug possession when police found in Central Park well after the park's 1 a.m. curfew. Sure, the initial reports said Quest told police he was carrying methamphetamime in his pocket, but leave it to the NY Post to add the really detailed details.
Not only did Quest have drugs, he also had a "rope around his neck that was tied to his genitals, and a sex toy in his boot." That was so not in the NY Times' account. The Post also reported, "It wasn't immediately clear what the rope was for" and that "the officer at the scene was able to ID the drug because of 'his prior experience as a police officer in drug arrests, observation of packaging which is characteristic of this type of drug, and defendant's statements that... "I've got some meth in my pocket."'" Ha!
Quest, who was in jail most of yesterday, was charged with loitering and drug possession (but not lewdness because he wasn't exposed). His lawyer claimed Quest was "returning to his hotel with friends" and had no idea there was a curfew for the park. Quest will attend six months of drug counseling and if he stays out of trouble, the charges will be dismissed and his case sealed.

Not praising Quest- just liked that he was the lone voice that said sweeping Psych exams wouldnt do anything to enhance safety and that cameras in the flight deck are not always accurate. It does sound like he had a great night in Central Park though.;)