Singapore 368 Turnback, Catches Fire
06-27-2016, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
my guess is the pilots did not know the right wing was on fire... cannot see it from the cockpit... and none of the inflight crew picked up the intercom. I'm very surprised the tower and/or another aircraft did not call a fire on the right wing... which should have led to an immediate EVAC.
Of course, I wasn't there, and don't know all the circumstances, but I'll take some injuries over loss of life any day.
The evac's with higher injury rates are many times unplanned evac's. They had 2 hours to plan and prepare.
06-27-2016, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Open the window and stick your head out. Walk back to the cabin...lots of ways. Many 777-300's have an exterior camera system....Fires that have started exactly like this in the past have resulted in major loss of life.
Of course, I wasn't there, and don't know all the circumstances, but I'll take some injuries over loss of life any day.
The evac's with higher injury rates are many times unplanned evac's. They had 2 hours to plan and prepare.
Of course, I wasn't there, and don't know all the circumstances, but I'll take some injuries over loss of life any day.
The evac's with higher injury rates are many times unplanned evac's. They had 2 hours to plan and prepare.
Did they (cockpit crew) know they had a fire? Would you be opening the window after landing for an oil problem? "Captain, we need to open the window and check for fire", said nobody ever.
Personally, I am of the school of thought that delaying the evacuation probably prevented injury or saved lives -- assuming it was done on purpose. The delay may have been caused by incompetence or ignorance of what was happening.
Here we have another 777 engulfed in flames around the engine area after an engine issue. It will be interesting to see what the investigation reveals.
06-27-2016, 07:09 PM
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Just a thought ... the starboard wing is on fire, so evacuate on the port side. But ... the fuel from the starboard wing tank escapes and runs, burning, under the aircraft. So you evacuate into a wall of flame just where the slides touch the tarmac.
Keep the pax seated and wait for the ARFF.
Keep the pax seated and wait for the ARFF.
06-27-2016, 08:43 PM
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Keep the pax seated and wait for the ARFF.
I'm getting out.
I'll give them the only benefit of doubt, they somehow did not know it was burning.
In that case the cabin crew has some major faults in their procedures if they cannot pick up the interphone and inform the cockpit of impending doom.
06-28-2016, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Open the window and stick your head out. Walk back to the cabin...lots of ways. Many 777-300's have an exterior camera system....Fires that have started exactly like this in the past have resulted in major loss of life.
Of course, I wasn't there, and don't know all the circumstances, but I'll take some injuries over loss of life any day.
The evac's with higher injury rates are many times unplanned evac's. They had 2 hours to plan and prepare.
Of course, I wasn't there, and don't know all the circumstances, but I'll take some injuries over loss of life any day.
The evac's with higher injury rates are many times unplanned evac's. They had 2 hours to plan and prepare.
06-28-2016, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Just as side note for future ref, no cockpit windows on 787. Doubt A 350 has them either.
As far as 777's engines engulfed in flames, yes, British Airlways in LAS, recently.
SE landing?? Yes, prep the cabin for exactly this eventuality. If you are a UAL person, we have the TEST acronym with the F/A's. In the PC, "We anticipate a normal landing, but..."
I can promise you that this incident will be use for the next couple of years in EVAC class. Would you or wouldn't you?
06-30-2016, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
SE landing?? Yes, prep the cabin for exactly this eventuality. If you are a UAL person, we have the TEST acronym with the F/A's. In the PC, "We anticipate a normal landing, but..."
07-07-2016, 07:14 AM
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Just some questions? I'm thinking a very suitable alternate was likely closer to the point of time when they had the 'degraded engine'? It sounds like they flew a good while after the problem with the engine was evident?
Was the engine shut down and cold during landing? Fuel dumping secured? They have nice long runways in Singapore, once they ended up there.
Was the engine shut down and cold during landing? Fuel dumping secured? They have nice long runways in Singapore, once they ended up there.
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