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Old 10-09-2016 | 07:41 AM
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Airports and TRACON's want to fuel in pounds to inform the firefighters how big of a mess they might be dealing with.

Center might be more concerned with how long you can keep flying.

An engine failure declaration will get you promoted to emergency status whether you wanted to be or not, no real need to waste your breath unless you sense confusion on the part of ATC.

Unless it's broad daylight CAVU an ILS would be far preferable to a non-prec approach in this sort of situation...no need to increase work-load and maybe have to do level-offs and descents in a configuration you're not accustomed to.

I can't fault the crew in any way.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 09:31 AM
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I don't know the CRJ, but on the last couple of planes I flew, the FMS provided VNAV data that made a non-precision approach very similar to an ILS.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I don't know the CRJ, but on the last couple of planes I flew, the FMS provided VNAV data that made a non-precision approach very similar to an ILS.
Not on the CRJ. You can setup an advisory GS, but it's not precise or regulatory and cannot be coupled. The best you can do is calculate the vertical rate from the FAF, set that in VS at the marker, and hope it works out. It usually does, if your math is right, the winds are as expected, and you're very precise as to when/how you initiate the descent. High workload.

Better to do a coupled ILS in this situation.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Not on the CRJ. You can setup an advisory GS, but it's not precise or regulatory and cannot be coupled. The best you can do is calculate the vertical rate from the FAF, set that in VS at the marker, and hope it works out. It usually does, if your math is right, the winds are as expected, and you're very precise as to when/how you initiate the descent. High workload.

Better to do a coupled ILS in this situation.
Next gen CRJs have the ability to couple VNAV on GPS appchs. It looks like they did the VOR though.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Next gen CRJs have the ability to couple VNAV on GPS appchs. It looks like they did the VOR though.
We haven't implemented that capability. Do you know of anyone who has?
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Old 10-09-2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
We haven't implemented that capability. Do you know of anyone who has?
I don't. The acft is capable though.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
We haven't implemented that capability. Do you know of anyone who has?
It's pretty crazy I used to instruct students how to shoot LPV approaches in a 172 with no autopilot, but the technology in the transport category airplane I'm typed in is far behind what a G1000 can do. We can do LNAV/VNAV, but in almost all instances, these are higher minimums than WAAS capable aircraft. I know JetBlue and Delta are able to shoot RNP approaches in lieu of the VOR 13L/R into Kennedy, but I'm not familiar what the differences between the approaches are.
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Old 10-18-2016 | 09:11 PM
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Great job by the crew.
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