Is NJ hiring FO's?
04-26-2024, 12:41 PM
#171
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Originally Posted by El Pilot
Currently doing 121 cargo in a turboprop, but considering NJ to get some jet time and career advancement.
What are the FO non-flying duties? I will probably work more doing non flying stuff is that true?
I'm usually a slam-clicker, is NJ a good fit for those types or do you have to smile and engage all the time.
Is it worth it to apply at NJ if you want to hustle and get some jet time before going to a legacy? serious questions.
What are the FO non-flying duties? I will probably work more doing non flying stuff is that true?
I'm usually a slam-clicker, is NJ a good fit for those types or do you have to smile and engage all the time.
Is it worth it to apply at NJ if you want to hustle and get some jet time before going to a legacy? serious questions.
You could get the Phenom. Which is a single pilot jet that you can legally log SIC time in. How valuable is that jet time to the place(s) you really want to work?
05-04-2024, 12:17 AM
#172
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Originally Posted by 121noob
If you go to the APC NJ page:
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...tional/netjets
You can read all about their pay structure.
There is a base salary then FDP or Flight Duty Pay for every hour over 10 hours in a given rotation. It's $158/hr for the extra hours. As pointed out, if you're assigned to a fleet that doesn't fly often, you don't get a lot of FDP. If you fly your butt off, you get a lot of FDP. This unfortunately makes it hard to predict one's income other than the minimum base pay.
I do however personally like the idea of getting incentivized when I fly more as opposed to a straight salary.
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...tional/netjets
You can read all about their pay structure.
There is a base salary then FDP or Flight Duty Pay for every hour over 10 hours in a given rotation. It's $158/hr for the extra hours. As pointed out, if you're assigned to a fleet that doesn't fly often, you don't get a lot of FDP. If you fly your butt off, you get a lot of FDP. This unfortunately makes it hard to predict one's income other than the minimum base pay.
I do however personally like the idea of getting incentivized when I fly more as opposed to a straight salary.
05-04-2024, 10:15 AM
#173
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Originally Posted by awaywego
where are you on your days “on” but not flying? Home or in a hotel waiting?
At other locations you'll do "Hotel Standby" with 30 minutes to leave the hotel if called out.
It's VERY rare you won't have an airplane to fly on your "on" days. If yours breaks, airline or limo info usually comes pretty quickly. This is back when I was flying, we had more jets than crews so there was almost always an uncrewed jet somewhere. I think it's the same now.
05-05-2024, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
Depends if you happen to be at your home base. I live 20 minutes from the FBO at CLT. So I never used a hotel here in CLT, I just went home after cordinating with crew scheduling. .
At other locations you'll do "Hotel Standby" with 30 minutes to leave the hotel if called out.
It's VERY rare you won't have an airplane to fly on your "on" days. If yours breaks, airline or limo info usually comes pretty quickly. This is back when I was flying, we had more jets than crews so there was almost always an uncrewed jet somewhere. I think it's the same now.
At other locations you'll do "Hotel Standby" with 30 minutes to leave the hotel if called out.
It's VERY rare you won't have an airplane to fly on your "on" days. If yours breaks, airline or limo info usually comes pretty quickly. This is back when I was flying, we had more jets than crews so there was almost always an uncrewed jet somewhere. I think it's the same now.
Some fleets sit in hotels more often than other fleets. Specifically large cabin.
05-05-2024, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedepilut
It also depends which fleet you're in.
Some fleets sit in hotels more often than other fleets. Specifically large cabin.
Some fleets sit in hotels more often than other fleets. Specifically large cabin.
I enjoyed flying the small cabin jets because of the shorter legs. I think my longest was 3:45 in the Phenom 300. Average was around 2 hours. Now in an airliner with the bullet proof doors you can read a book or otherwise keep yourself entertained on long redeyes or oceanic crossings. But at NJA with the owners having full view of the cockpit about all you can do is sit and stare out the window.
05-05-2024, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
A new hire classmate of mine downgraded to F/O in the Global. I ran into him on the ramp at HPN one day and asked him why. He proceeded to tell me about his schedule. It involved very few legs per day, frequent trips to Europe where they often sat for 30 hours then flew a live leg back.
I enjoyed flying the small cabin jets because of the shorter legs. I think my longest was 3:45 in the Phenom 300. Average was around 2 hours. Now in an airliner with the bullet proof doors you can read a book or otherwise keep yourself entertained on long redeyes or oceanic crossings. But at NJA with the owners having full view of the cockpit about all you can do is sit and stare out the window.
I enjoyed flying the small cabin jets because of the shorter legs. I think my longest was 3:45 in the Phenom 300. Average was around 2 hours. Now in an airliner with the bullet proof doors you can read a book or otherwise keep yourself entertained on long redeyes or oceanic crossings. But at NJA with the owners having full view of the cockpit about all you can do is sit and stare out the window.
Yesterday, 10:00 AM
#180
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Joined APC: Apr 2024
Position: B-737 FO
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Originally Posted by ApacheAv8tor
Well I just got the thanks but no thanks on the application site. What in the world are they looking for? I have 4500 hours with ATP, plenty of turbine PIC and a couple of type ratings.
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