agreed it’s about the revenue stream and how profitable it is.

The pilots at atlas have seen the company purchase a dozen or so wide bodies with cash. These are airplanes that they aren’t even flying. They get leased to other airlines for a pretty low return. The company has paid a 100 mil price fixing fine and bought southern air for another 100 mil with cash made literally in a single qtr. they recently bought 22 767s mostly with cash. They probably (we don’t know for sure) just bought close to a billion dollars worth of new 747-8s with cash. While this is all great for the growth story it also tells another. It’s pretty clear to a lot of us there’s plenty of money on the table to have an industry standard deal. And that’s all in the past The rev per block hour this year would make any legacy airline ceo grin.

Did You Know?

Atlas Air recently announced plans to acquire four new Boeing 747-8f aircraft. The list price of a brand new B747-8f is $419.2 million for one aircraft or almost $1.7 billion for all four aircraft. With a fleet of 123 aircraft and the world’s largest fleet of B747 aircraft, management continues to invest in aircraft but they choose to forego investing in the pilots who continue to build this company.

You do know Atlas didn’t pay full price for those frames.

Don't feed the troll.

Which is why he wrote “List price”.

A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you start talking about real money.

Senator Everett Dirksen spoke the truth.

Just an observation. When currently employed pilots continue to show up for trips that have room lock downs and fatiguing construction whats the motivation for management? When the application stack and new hire classes continue to fill up knowing the work rules and pay whats the motivation? Seems the problem may be the pilots. This is the case at most airlines.

This is a "blame the victim" mentality. It's like the abusive parent blaming the child for his beating: "I wouldn't have to hit you so much if you'd just take out the trash a little earlier!"

Look, this is a business, or supposed to be one at least. But when the pilot group has a whole list of grievances (literal and figurative) well, maybe it's not just about us for a change.

Maybe it's time to drag this organization into the 21st Century for the benefit of everyone, senior ones and junior ones, and even those who aren't on the property yet.

Did You Know?

Pilots at Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, FedEx, Hawaiian Airlines, JetBlue Airlines, Southwest Airlines, United Airlines, and UPS all credit between 6.00 and 6.95 hours of pay credit for every 24 hours they are on a trip as a result of their trip rig protection. At Atlas Air, we receive 4.85 hours of pay credit for every 24 hours we are on a trip as a result of our Calculated Rig Time (CRT).