Can confirm they can and will have you fly in to do your day 1 orientation the morning of Christmas Eve then have you back in sims the afternoon of the 26th.

You mean the 737 shut down for the US Air merger??
Get over it , there's 2 sides to every story.

It’s funny… vacancy bid resulting in net loss of narrowbody CA because insufficient pilots are upgrading to fill all the backfills plus vacancies.


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The value of SFO was high, absolutely, but that's not exactly relevant. There was good money to be made in SEA and the company walked away and ceded the space to Delta.

It actually is relevant. United was very small in SEA (not a hub) and once DAL started building up with Alaska already #1 there the decision to leave was easy for United. The largest player in a hub gets a disproportionate amount of the revenue and over time if their costs are in line with bleed the smaller players. United has the two best international gateways in EWR and SFO. The ROI of adding to those hubs likely dwarfs other options. Leaving JFK was idiotic because of the transcons. The high yield corporate customers don't want to get to the Hamptons via EWR.

SEA was absolutely a hub...

Horizon (yes the same horizon that exists today) and several other regionals fed the SEA hub for UA at different times through history.

Leaving SEA was a mistake.

It played a bigger role when UA was flying 747 classics to Asia along with Northwest. The Seattle pulled down started happening well before the UA/CO merger. As the range of WB increased, the importance of SEA decreased as SFO could be leveraged as United’s gateway to Asia with the 400s and triples. The same thing happened with the NRT hub. The Delta expansion was just the final straw.

And instead of keeping it as a medium-cost placeholder to keep a competitor from creating a hub that would allow them to create inroads on Asia they just tucked tail and ran. Poor decision making.

Exactly. United only improved their market share and yields in the Pacific while leaving SEA before Covid.

I disagree, trans pac yields improved for United once the move was made. SFO as a fortress and LAX to capture O and D traffic combination for the trans-pac is great.

Seattle has been a loss leader for Delta for long time when they set off to build up that hub even with it it being their primary pacific gateway. They were desperate for one. Staying and fighting for Seattle against DL and AS in a market that can’t sustain that kind of blood bath would have resulted trashed yields.

There was no benefit of maintaining the Seattle hub.