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Grumpyaviator , 07-29-2021 09:55 AM

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I knew APC shouldn’t have deleted the expressjet page!

#12

tallpilot , 07-29-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

Yeah I got that email followed by an email a month later saying that was no longer applicable. So basically there was a short window back around March of about 30 days in which if you had another job or a CJO you could use the exception. If you didn’t get in the window you now have to go to an Aviate carrier.

So I guess maybe the question is does being furloughed at XJT count as being employed? Seems far-fetched to think the best course of action would be to wait around on a recall that may or may not happen to get hours that may or may not count.

Hard to understand the nuances of the program without explicit guidance. It seems to me though, if you were in Aviate, not currently working and still want to work for United, then you should be applying to all of the current Aviate partners and choosing the best of the offers you receive based on your personal situation.

If you are ****ed at United and want them to just hire you because they screwed XJT, I understand your frustration but respectfully submit that you are ****ing into the wind and should take the opportunity to find another flying job.

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DoSomePilotStuf , 07-29-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tallpilot

100% agree. That’s exactly what I have done. Although the best offer among those carriers can be a bit nuanced to put it nicely, I have made my decision and am moving forward with it.

#14

ZeroTT , 07-30-2021 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf

Seems far-fetched to think the best course of action would be to wait around on a recall that may or may not happen to get hours that may or may not count.

how many planes would neoXJ need to operate to recall furloughs hired after 2010. I bet the number is shocking

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DoSomePilotStuf , 07-30-2021 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroTT

how many planes would neoXJ need to operate to recall furloughs hired after 2010. I bet the number is shocking

Not going to happen soon. It’s about 10 pilots per plane. IIRC 2010 would be maybe around 600-700 on the list. I imagine acceptance rate after the first couple hundred would get pretty low though. I would take a SWAG that 20 planes may hit a 2010 hire. Could be less.

#16

ninerdriver , 07-30-2021 12:52 PM

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Does United still almost-half-own XJT?

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Grumpyaviator , 07-31-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ninerdriver;[url=tel:3271237

3271237[/url]]Does United still almost-half-own XJT?

Thats an interesting question. Where is the backing for this?

#18

Wtaps , 07-31-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator

Thats an interesting question. Where is the backing for this?

Copied directly from expressjet’s website

Ownership

ExpressJet is a privately held Delaware registered LLC. KAir Enterprises LLC has majority ownership of ExpressJet with United Airlines maintaining a minority ownership interest.

#19

Xelectro , 08-09-2021 05:59 AM

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Big question for anyone looking into a startup, why on earth would you use a seniority list that has everyone at the top of the pay scale? Wouldn’t it be more advantageous to the startup company to just get new pilots and have everyone on 1st year pay? Seems like some kind of a suicidal business model there. Most new companies use “new workforce” as a business advantage to get ahead.

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ninerdriver , 08-09-2021 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Xelectro

Because the company already has a 121 certificate.

I don't know the specifics of the XJT contract. I do know that the XJT contract is one of the stronger ones out there. Thus, I'd be surprised if the contract didn't have language that requires whoever uses that certificate to use the XJT pilots and comply with the XJT contract.